SUPERTOON Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 On 24/10/2022 at 20:17, gbandit said: Bournemouth’s attacking play has to be the worst in the league, painful to watch them attempting to move the ball round Expand Still annoyed we didn’t beat them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Good appointment, hope he does shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 On 24/10/2022 at 19:38, LV said: The fella wouldn’t even be able to point Birmingham out on a map Expand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 On 24/10/2022 at 19:11, Jack27 said: Nonsense is starting Expand The 1 like would suggest it's not starting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Gambling, that's really principled and not exploiting anyone eh 'Mikebetsonstuff'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 I know Twitter is absolutely rammed with idiots but the Villa fans seem to work especially hard to put themselves as imbeciles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 On 24/10/2022 at 19:41, KaKa said: Some really strange stuff going on between the two clubs. There's a rivalry growing Would love it if Emery bombs. Found his carrying on after our approach extremely irritating. Expand There’s no rivalry - they acted like complete wankers in 2009 about a club with which they had zero history. Most of us now get schadenfreude when something unfortunate happens to them, but I can’t say I’m any more arsed when we play them compared to playing anyone else, really. They’re trying to force a rivalry, and there’s a massive chip on the shoulder down there it seems. They seem obsessed of late of players and managers going there instead of here (even though this appears to have only happened with Digne. How did that one work out?). Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure we all wish we had Emery instead of Howe, Carlos instead of Botman, and Coutinho instead of Bruno … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 On 24/10/2022 at 20:51, gbandit said: I know Twitter is absolutely rammed with idiots but the Villa fans seem to work especially hard to put themselves as imbeciles Expand Think it comes naturally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Emery didn't have the guts or self-belief, that Howe did, to get us out of our situation. Dodged a bullet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 No problem at all with Emery deciding he wasn't good enough to keep us up, his call to make. Exactly the same call as van de Beek made opting to play a bit part role in almost relegating Everton before heading back to sit on the Man United bench in a world cup year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 On 24/10/2022 at 22:27, elbee909 said: Emery didn't have the guts or self-belief, that Howe did, to get us out of our situation. Dodged a bullet. Expand On 24/10/2022 at 22:58, Joey Linton said: No problem at all with Emery deciding he wasn't good enough to keep us up, his call to make. Exactly the same call as van de Beek made opting to play a bit part role in almost relegating Everton before heading back to sit on the Man United bench in a world cup year. Expand Fuck ‘em. And so happy to say that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 On 24/10/2022 at 22:27, elbee909 said: Emery didn't have the guts or self-belief, that Howe did, to get us out of our situation. Dodged a bullet. Expand This isn't true from what I've read. The club fucked up and then wouldn't pay his release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 No Emery bashing here. For whatever reason he chose not to bin his club off the day they were playing in Europe. Certainly didn't bottle anything or turn his nose up. Timing and diplomacy, or lack of, being the issues. Imho As it happens it turned out in our favour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 On 25/10/2022 at 04:24, Groundhog63 said: No Emery bashing here. For whatever reason he chose not to bin his club off the day they were playing in Europe. Certainly didn't bottle anything or turn his nose up. Timing and diplomacy, or lack of, being the issues. Imho As it happens it turned out in our favour. Expand Nailed it. He’s a fantastic manger and still underrated. We were bottom of the league while he was in Europe and arguably pushing for the title. I was gutted when it fell through but as you said it worked in our favour. I don’t think there’s a manager in world football that could have got a single extra point and changed the culture of the entire club like Howe has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 On 25/10/2022 at 04:42, St1pe said: Nailed it. He’s a fantastic manger and still underrated. We were bottom of the league while he was in Europe and arguably pushing for the title. I was gutted when it fell through but as you said it worked in our favour. I don’t think there’s a manager in world football that could have got a single extra point and changed the culture of the entire club like Howe has. Expand Exactly this. It’s just the way things worked out but it worked out great for us anyway. It’ll be interesting to see how Emery does with this group of players. He’s clearly a great coach and probably has a point to prove still in the premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Yep, I'll add to the 'that's a good appointment' brigade. Emery is a very good manager - though an actual manager would likely be a step up from Steeeevie Geeee. Can't see them being troubled by relegation with him in charge; I'd guess he'll get them comfortable in the PL this season. Pisser that the appointment wasn't next week instead of this, but we should still go into that game with confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 He’s a good manager but I think it will take him a little time for him to change their way of playing to his. He’s a good appointment only if they give him time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 He is obviously head and shoulders ahead of Gerrard as a coach and definitely a much better appointment, but to play devils advocate for a few moments; - doesn’t tend to last over 3 years at anyone club and tends to leave before his contract expires, although was sacked at Arsenal - he’s a more pragmatic coach than attacking one a big complaint from Arsenal fans was a real lack of a defined playing style - he’s good at setting up teams for matches against bigger opposition as evidenced in some of his results with Villarreal in the CL, however he can struggle when it’s on him to dictate the game - there is going to be a lot of pressure from the outset, these owners already got one marquee appointment wrong a second could be fatal for them. - The pressure and exposure at Villarreal is far below what will be expected of him at Villa, although he’s been a plenty big clubs earlier in his career. He will improve Villa, there’s no doubt in that but could be a rather expensive medium term appointment and may not take them as far as their ambitions lie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I have to kind of disagree with your last point there. Over the last 20 years I’d say Villarreal have been a bigger club than Villa. Villarreal have regularly played in Europe, including the Champions League and have been much more competitive La Liga than Villa have been in the Premier League. Let’s not also not disregard the fact that Villa at one point looked more in danger of dropping to League One than being promoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 My Arsenal supporting mate reckons he’s dreadful and has a small club manager mentality and therefore will always have a ceiling as to what he can do with a club. Keeps banging on about the time when Emery was Arsenal manager and he played 5 at the back at home to Burnley to counteract the fret. For what it’s worth I think it’ll be a decent appointment but can’t see him ever breaking the top 7 with them. Think he’ll have them hovering between 8-10th in a couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 On 25/10/2022 at 06:49, Stifler said: I have to kind of disagree with your last point there. Over the last 20 years I’d say Villarreal have been a bigger club than Villa. Villarreal have regularly played in Europe, including the Champions League and have been much more competitive La Liga than Villa have been in the Premier League. Let’s not also not disregard the fact that Villa at one point looked more in danger of dropping to League One than being promoted. Expand Villa are a miles bigger club than Villareal regardless of league position. You could fit nearly the entire population of the place inside Villa Park. Villareal are a well run and well funded side that have consistently punched above their weight. I’d argue their relatively smaller size has helped them do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Think Emery is a good appointment. Was excited as owt last year when we were close to getting him. Mental how lucky we’ve been really, not that we’ve dodged a bullet but more that we’ve found an absolute gem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) On 25/10/2022 at 06:53, GeordieDazzler said: Villa are a miles bigger club than Villareal regardless of league position. You could fit nearly the entire population of the place inside Villa Park. Villareal are a well run and well funded side that have consistently punched above their weight. I’d argue their relatively smaller size has helped them do that. Expand I’m not saying that they are a bigger club overall, I’m saying in the last 20 years or so they have outperformed Villa. Their expectations I guess by contrast will be bigger than Villa’s. I don’t think any realistic Villa fan is sitting there thinking that their minimum aim must be European football, and their target should be the Champions League, where as possibly the Villarreal fans would expect to finish in the European places and believe that they should target a Champions League place. Villarreal fans will likely be thinking an excellent season for them is finishing 3rd-4th, and Villa fans thinking 7th is one for them. The pressure will be on Villarreal because they have built a team up to compete, where as Villa are on the road to building theirs. Edited October 25, 2022 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) So is Emery’s latest move sound like going from Villarreal to Villa-fake? Seems a bit like going from Estádio da Luz to The Palladium of Shite. Edited October 25, 2022 by Coffee_Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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