Froggy Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Smalling is a good player like. Idiotic at the weekend but in general he's been playing well when he has had the chance. Can cover RB and CB and is a good player to have for depth. He isn't as good as Jones, Evans or Rojo though. I can't see him having a career as a starting centre back at us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Vlaar is not good enough like. Long term no, but if our current injury trend continues we'll need somebody for the short term, and he's as good as we can hope for. Can't imagine he'll be expensive either. £6m or £7m possibly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Varane and Ramos would be good for Manchester United. But i doubt they'd be willing to go to such a small club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RJberger Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Man Utd is Real Madrids feederclub tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 If people want to drone on about Manure I am sure there must be a load of Manure forums they can fuck off to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Man Utd is Real Madrids feederclub tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 If people want to drone on about Manure I am sure there must be a load of Manure forums they can fuck off to. Piss off man , there is a thread here on a football forum. Do we have to exclusively talk about Newcastle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 If people want to drone on about Manure I am sure there must be a load of Manure forums they can fuck off to. Piss off man , there is a thread here on a football forum. Do we have to exclusively talk about Newcastle? god that would get depressing quickly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Exactly. My little ray of light at the moment is how shit everyone else seems to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Anything and everything related to Newcastle United. Discussion of other teams is also welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Manure ffs, bet he finds calling Tottenham the spuds hilarious as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Manure ffs, bet he finds calling Tottenham the spuds hilarious as well. Memories of Skirge constantly referring to "Manure" and "Chelski". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 That avatar man It's a look that says "Oh fuck". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I'd love to see Ramos at Man United, I've a feeling it would be Jim Leighton-esque. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Think Ramos & Pepe are slightly under-rated. Aye both are liable for a red card but Souness the other day was talking about them both being susceptible. But for me, they are absolutely world class and allow their teams to play in any style. They don't need an excellent DM in front, both are capable of playing in a highline and just squeezing the other team and defending on the front foot. JT & Cahill get plenty of plaudits from pundits for being top defenders and they're very good but they're a level the Madrid duo. Neither is comfortable in a high line or actively pressing attackers. And they can play some - Ramos could play in midfield for most teams. He's also a true leader. Pepe & Ramos can also sit deep, position themselves well, organise and head/clear everything out when needed. Varane looks to have the potential to be better than both minus the red card factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Fuckin' hate Real Madrid...always did. What a bunch of arrogant tossers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I think Ramos has distinctly improved in the past couple of years. In his early days at Real Madrid he was a total liability and good for a red card/mistake every other game. While he's not perfect, the advantages the team gets from his "footballing" style and playing it out from the back far outweighs the possible downside of him doing something daft. On a lesser scale I think a similar theme applies to Pepe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Always thought Ramos was vastly overrated and Pepe was vastly underrated (probably due to his antics) and still do quite frankly. As for Varane I'm still very much on the fence, he's very talented but I have seen him have more games where he's the reason the team concede than games when he's the reason they don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Have to remember Varane's only 21. While that may not be extremely young for a forward, I think it is still very young for a defender where arguably more than anywhere else on the pitch, experience is vital. He'll be mint, just learning a few lessons along the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Aye Varane is going to be a fantastic defender. Would already cost a fortune as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Didn't you guys choose Jones instead? No, he turned us down because we signed Jones. I don't know why to be honest. Our CB pairing could have been Jones and Varane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Imagine what Varane would be like now if we'd have signed him when rumoured if Pards had got his hands on him. He'd be back on loan to Lens or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Not really the same thing. He wanted to come to us. Varane is clearly more talented but Jones is already a good player and has tons of potential. Easy to forget Jones is only 22 as well since he has been around in England for a while now. I'm very happy that we have him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 If you truly believe that then you are lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 He's nowhere near as good on the ball as he was bigged up to be like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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