ads Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Get him over the line Get him over the liiiiiine You FAT cockney bastard Get him over the line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Ok, my theory is that Galtier is our first choice. When he said and continues to say, I will remain at my current club until the end of the season, we sounded out Garde to take over immediately. He was willing, but unless some complications are resolved and he takes over toot sweet, we are reluctantly looking at the possibility of trying to hold out until the summer and bring in Galtier (or failing that, Dave Bassett). Aye, that'll be it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Carr's remit is to bring in players with big profit potential and knowing Ashley's way of working he will have heavy incentives to reward him for the degree to which he does this. One of the apparent frustrations with Pardew was his reluctance to use the players given to him, which is completely understandable given our business model. The club will want to appoint a coach who will bring the best out of and develop the players brought in by the scouting team in order to inflate their values. That man is not John Carver. I cannot see Carr pushing for Carver in any scenario. He will be pushing for a continental coach who suits the style of the players he brings to the club. A shit manager will only devalue the job he is doing here. Charnley is a bit of an unknown at the moment but given his lack of experience I can see him leaning on Carr's experience and knowledge of the game. The wait is frustrating and we may yet end up with Carver as an interim head coach but I'm still confident we'll make a decent managerial appointment this time around. I'm more confident than I ever thought I would be TBH, for the Carr reasons you say. Just the waiting is getting annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I don’t think Carver has behaved particularly well here. It’s okay to say you’d be interested in the job and leave it at that, but all this very public touting and using Jose as an applicant reference is making the situation more awkward for the club, in terms of managing the succession. He might be thinking that it’s smart to use what power he has in this way, but I don’t think it’ll impress the people he needs to impress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I don’t think Carver has behaved particularly well here. It’s okay to say you’d be interested in the job and leave it at that, but all this very public touting and using Jose as an applicant reference is making the situation more awkward for the club, in terms of managing the succession. He might be thinking that it’s smart to use what power he has in this way, but I don’t think it’ll impress the people he needs to impress. He hasn't got anything to lose to be fair to the fat cunt. He either gets the manager job, stays on as a coach or gets paid off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Did anyone honestly expect a positive outcome here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Did anyone honestly expect a positive outcome here? stfu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 It's so quiet as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 From .com: Latest update. Two weeks into 2015 and here's where we're at: Head coach appointment no update Transfers (in) no update Transfers (out) no update Transfer window closes Mon 02.02.2015 Season ends Sun 24.05.2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 From .com: Latest update. Two weeks into 2015 and here's where we're at: Head coach appointment no update Transfers (in) no update Transfers (out) no update Transfer window closes Mon 02.02.2015 Season ends Sun 24.05.2015 This club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 From .com: Latest update. Two weeks into 2015 and here's where we're at: Head coach appointment no update Transfers (in) no update Transfers (out) no update Transfer window closes Mon 02.02.2015 Season ends Sun 24.05.2015 they appear to have gotten the date of the season ending wrong, that was 11 days ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 If Carver was getting it the rumours would be everywhere by now. ITK talk all over the place, they wouldn't be able to keep their gobs shut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 From .com: Latest update. Two weeks into 2015 and here's where we're at: Head coach appointment no update Transfers (in) no update Transfers (out) no update Transfer window closes Mon 02.02.2015 Season ends Sun 24.05.2015 they appear to have gotten the date of the season ending wrong, that was 11 days ago. Meh. Every season is already over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 If Carver was getting it the rumours would be everywhere by now. ITK talk all over the place, they wouldn't be able to keep their gobs shut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 If Carver was getting it the rumours would be everywhere by now. ITK talk all over the place, they wouldn't be able to keep their gobs shut. True. Carver would declare himself successor to the throne and have a huge fucking coronation at Burger King. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 If Carver was getting it the rumours would be everywhere by now. ITK talk all over the place, they wouldn't be able to keep their gobs shut. True, instead the fuckers are on Talk Sport, "I want Carver to get it, I want him to get it now", and in the Chronicle the man himself is all "I'll suck Ashley dry if he gives me the job, pweety pweeese Ashley". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The longer this drags on the more convinced I am we're either going to appoint Carver full time, or at least till the end of the season because they've failed. We won't have anyone ready to come in for the summer either. As time drags on it just doesn't look like we've spotted someone we want and gone out to get them. There's been about five or six clubs change manager in England since Pardew left. They've gone out identified a man they want, sorted terms and got him in, recognising the importance of having a good manager at the helm. We've dragged our feet and messed around to the point of idiocy if there's candidates we actually want. West Brom were doing interviews days after they sacked Irvine. We're still not in formal talks weeks later. The way we're run in terms of finding the right man for the most important job at the club is a joke. I'll be happy to be massively wrong if Garde comes in. It's what a desperately want, just a good coach who has an actual clue. I just doubt it'll happen more and more as time drags on. If we don't appoint someone by early next week I'd say the jig is up and the delay will mean Carver for some length of time. Although often when a manager leaves a club mid season, it is because they have been sacked which means the club have probably been thinking about alternatives for a while. If that's the case it would say a lot about the safety of Pardew in his job. We should have identified targets when Pardew looked a game away from the sack. They literally never ever would have sacked him. Sickening really. That was my conclusion as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 He was nowhere near getting sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The longer this drags on the more convinced I am we're either going to appoint Carver full time, or at least till the end of the season because they've failed. We won't have anyone ready to come in for the summer either. As time drags on it just doesn't look like we've spotted someone we want and gone out to get them. There's been about five or six clubs change manager in England since Pardew left. They've gone out identified a man they want, sorted terms and got him in, recognising the importance of having a good manager at the helm. We've dragged our feet and messed around to the point of idiocy if there's candidates we actually want. West Brom were doing interviews days after they sacked Irvine. We're still not in formal talks weeks later. The way we're run in terms of finding the right man for the most important job at the club is a joke. I'll be happy to be massively wrong if Garde comes in. It's what a desperately want, just a good coach who has an actual clue. I just doubt it'll happen more and more as time drags on. If we don't appoint someone by early next week I'd say the jig is up and the delay will mean Carver for some length of time. Although often when a manager leaves a club mid season, it is because they have been sacked which means the club have probably been thinking about alternatives for a while. If that's the case it would say a lot about the safety of Pardew in his job. We should have identified targets when Pardew looked a game away from the sack. They literally never ever would have sacked him. Sickening really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Well the closest to factual information we know is.. - we want a head coach with experience working in his type of set up. - Carver knows and has been quoted saying he is in charge until after the southampton game. - We have denied speaking to s couple of coaches but havent denied the widely reported garde meetings. What's open to conjecture dependent on what side of optimism/pessimism/scepticism you are on is whether we are looking or carver is the choice all along and this is all shenanigans to make it look like we tried. On the optimistic side; We reportedly wanted to wait until then because of the break and let's be honest if true they wouldn't want the new guy to start with two probably losses. With Carver; While there is no certainty the people we want or have spoken to will accept the position on our terms they need carver kept sweet in case talks fall through. I would certainly enjoy this whole media blackout if there wasn't a large part of myself doubting the above and that we are looking for a decent hire. When it came out that carver would be in charge against Chelsea and southampton we had a two week wait.. it continues to be agony and I don't think we will hear anything until early next week which already still seems like two weeks away in terms of Paranoia and worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The fact Carver keeps grovelling for the job, gives me hope that it is because he has been given short shrift so far, and pretty much is being kept completely out of the loop, because they despise him as much as we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Carver is spouting off and not being told to shut the fuck up, b/c in my honest opinion, they don't see him as any bit of an option. I'm sure old Bishop probably even told Ashley & Charnley that it will only add fuel to the bargaining of a new head coach, while also it gives Carver the stage/megaphone to say he's ready for management b/c he's worked with Keegan, SBR, Pardew, and look even Mourinho says he is ready. It'll possibly turn the head of a Championship or League 1/2 chairman, or in best case a just relegated PL team for next season. Just my feeling on it. I think the Garde thing is quiet b/c it's very complicated and we're either still talking to the likes of hopefully Galtier/Tuchel as well or trying to sort out when / if Garde's backroom will join him in the summer or if he's working on finding new backroom support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I feel like we just really need some sort of update now before everyone in here goes completely crazy endlessly speculating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Yeah, makes a lot of sense Kanji. He might be having to get a new team altogether, as most of his original choices are still with Lyon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newintoon Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Charnley consulting coloccini according to ssn, grim bound to say carver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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