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Shadow Puppets

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If people wanna turn up to Arsenal, and further games, then it's ultimately their loss. They're feeding the toxic cesspit that is Ashley's Newcastle United.

 

My only regret is that I didn't pack in my season ticket sooner. Rafa gave me hope, with hindsight though, I wish I never had got excited by football (nufc) again.

 

When Ashley goes, I will return.

 

Assuming full (enough) stadiums keep Ashley here, it's everybody's loss, not just those selfish and short-sighted enough to 'stay loyal'.

 

Sick to the back teeth of reading shit like that Yorkie. I'm with you in principle, but people are entitled to do whatever they want to do. Doesn't make them selfish in the slightest. Just that they have a different opinion to you... it doesn't make them wrong. So fucking holier that thou.

 

I'd say the same thing of a lot of people on the other side of the fence. You're right though, it probably is pretty condescending but I've got virtually no respect for anyone going to the game. And the situation is so deplorable that I feel fairly unconcerned about coming across as a complete dickhead.

 

There's two categories really, I should have said selfish and/or short-sighted:

 

/ If you're going to the game purely because you refuse to make a sacrifice cos its MY club and it's MY day out and it's MY right to watch the game and Mike Ashley isn't gonna stop ME watching MY club... I think you're selfish.

 

/ If you're going to the game because you genuinely don't believe that a cumulative season attendance of roughly zero would accelerate Ashley's departure... I think you're short-sighted.

 

I personally can't fathom how something as dramatic as 19 Premier League matches in a row, with a sheer vista of grey seats every single time (save for the away fans at the top, which, if nothing else, would be pretty comical) wouldn't force some kind of change. If Ashley himself wouldn't intervene by fucking off then at least it would alert the Premier League - and the world - to the wider issue of bad ownership. It would raise awareness of the fact that it is unethical to own a football club and then not treat it as a footballing enterprise, at the very least in addition to whatever other goals or reasons you might have for ownership.

 

I realise that, by holding and publishing these views, I'm just perpetuating the supporter in-fighting which Ashley feeds off, but fuck it. Everything about the situation stinks and it all feels a bit hopeless so whatever. Dickhead unleashed.

 

I appreciate all of that but you're living in cuckoo land if you think a boycott will ever truly take off. Sure, maybe 10,000 people won't show up to Arsenal... but 7,000 of them will return the following week. People who feel strongly about it and read every bit of news and dissect everything Ashley does... some of them will stay away. But the sheer truth of the whole thing is that 80-90% of the stadium leave the match on a Saturday and don't give much more thought about it until the next game. My wife is one of them, for example. She loves going to the games (even when we're doing shit) but couldn't care less about following all the ins and outs of it all outside of that. I would say the majority of the stadium are like that.

 

I really do think the people behind AO, The Magpie Group, etc, fail to really understand that.

 

The one and only time in the last 12 years when I've noticed Ashley lashing out in frustration was last August/September when his brands were getting attacked by 1000s of fans on social media, to the point where Sports Direct didn't tweet for weeks, and the PR machine will thrown into full force. That's where the focus should lie. It's hugely misguided and pie-in-the-sky to ever believe that a boycott will happen in significant enough numbers, and regularly enough, to make any significant difference. Idealistic, sure. Realistic, nope.

 

Make owning NUFC an inconvenience for him and his shareholders... that's when he'll sell (IMO).

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mrmojorisin75

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Absolutely ridiculous! Any one wanting to boycott Is a disgrace to the club and the city... We are Newcastle United F.C. they so called “Loyalest football Supporters...  the world has ever had!”

 

That's the mentality you're dealing with.

 

I'll see your ridiculous quote and raise you this one:

 

Steve Bruce has man management skills, something that Rafa lacked entirely.

 

We have more  chance of success under Bruce than we would ever have under Rafa

 

If that was on Twitter I'd already be suspended. As it is not going near the chronicles site.

 

It's interesting to me, are our fans like this because the chronicle and local media make them that way or are the chronicle and local media the way they are because the fans make them that way?

 

I just don't know anymore.

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If people wanna turn up to Arsenal, and further games, then it's ultimately their loss. They're feeding the toxic cesspit that is Ashley's Newcastle United.

 

My only regret is that I didn't pack in my season ticket sooner. Rafa gave me hope, with hindsight though, I wish I never had got excited by football (nufc) again.

 

When Ashley goes, I will return.

 

Assuming full (enough) stadiums keep Ashley here, it's everybody's loss, not just those selfish and short-sighted enough to 'stay loyal'.

 

Sick to the back teeth of reading shit like that Yorkie. I'm with you in principle, but people are entitled to do whatever they want to do. Doesn't make them selfish in the slightest. Just that they have a different opinion to you... it doesn't make them wrong. So fucking holier that thou.

 

I'd say the same thing of a lot of people on the other side of the fence. You're right though, it probably is pretty condescending but I've got virtually no respect for anyone going to the game. And the situation is so deplorable that I feel fairly unconcerned about coming across as a complete dickhead.

 

There's two categories really, I should have said selfish and/or short-sighted:

 

/ If you're going to the game purely because you refuse to make a sacrifice cos its MY club and it's MY day out and it's MY right to watch the game and Mike Ashley isn't gonna stop ME watching MY club... I think you're selfish.

 

/ If you're going to the game because you genuinely don't believe that a cumulative season attendance of roughly zero would accelerate Ashley's departure... I think you're short-sighted.

 

I personally can't fathom how something as dramatic as 19 Premier League matches in a row, with a sheer vista of grey seats every single time (save for the away fans at the top, which, if nothing else, would be pretty comical) wouldn't force some kind of change. If Ashley himself wouldn't intervene by fucking off then at least it would alert the Premier League - and the world - to the wider issue of bad ownership. It would raise awareness of the fact that it is unethical to own a football club and then not treat it as a footballing enterprise, at the very least in addition to whatever other goals or reasons you might have for ownership.

 

I realise that, by holding and publishing these views, I'm just perpetuating the supporter in-fighting which Ashley feeds off, but fuck it. Everything about the situation stinks and it all feels a bit hopeless so whatever. Dickhead unleashed.

 

I appreciate all of that but you're living in cuckoo land if you think a boycott will ever truly take off. Sure, maybe 10,000 people won't show up to Arsenal... but 7,000 of them will return the following week. People who feel strongly about it and read every bit of news and dissect everything Ashley does... some of them will stay away. But the sheer truth of the whole thing is that 80-90% of the stadium leave the match on a Saturday and don't give much more thought about it until the next game. My wife is one of them, for example. She loves going to the games (even when we're doing shit) but couldn't care less about following all the ins and outs of it all outside of that. I would say the majority of the stadium are like that.

 

I really do think the people behind AO, The Magpie Group, etc, fail to really understand that.

 

The one and only time in the last 12 years when I've noticed Ashley lashing out in frustration was last August/September when his brands were getting attacked by 1000s of fans on social media, to the point where Sports Direct didn't tweet for weeks, and the PR machine will thrown into full force. That's where the focus should lie. It's hugely misguided and pie-in-the-sky to ever believe that a boycott will happen in significant enough numbers, and regularly enough, to make any significant difference. Idealistic, sure. Realistic, nope.

 

Make owning NUFC an inconvenience for him and his shareholders... that's when he'll sell (IMO).

 

I agree, it'll never happen. I'm not making any attempt to persuade; it's pretty pointless at this stage. I've got behind and been involved at a micro level with the protest efforts in the past (did a bit of shop-shouting), but I've no energy to at this point. We've got too many people who are either selfish, short-sighted or - and thanks for throwing another one into the mix - simply don't care enough, which is arguably just a mix of the first two.

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TBG

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There's something clearly wrong with you if you're regularly using the Chronicle comment section.

 

Most sane people can only handle scrolling down the ad infested page once or twice. 

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Shadow Puppets

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Ashley's puppet at it again i see.

 

You deserve a Mike Ashley run club.

 

Ashley’s puppet? Who’s that referring to?

 

At a guess............I'd say you.

 

I thought so. I doubted myself because I didn’t really understand how childish you have to be to call someone Ashley’s puppet, just because you offer a slightly different viewpoint to the echo chamber of this forum. I’m no puppet to Ashley. I just think boycotts are a massive fucking waste of energy. Focus on getting at his businesses and make it an inconvenience for him to own the club.

 

Having a few thousand empty seats is going to achieve fuck all. I agree with the ideology of a boycott, but the reality is a concentrated and sustained boycott is never ever ever ever going to happen. It just isn’t.

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If people wanna turn up to Arsenal, and further games, then it's ultimately their loss. They're feeding the toxic cesspit that is Ashley's Newcastle United.

 

My only regret is that I didn't pack in my season ticket sooner. Rafa gave me hope, with hindsight though, I wish I never had got excited by football (nufc) again.

 

When Ashley goes, I will return.

 

Assuming full (enough) stadiums keep Ashley here, it's everybody's loss, not just those selfish and short-sighted enough to 'stay loyal'.

 

Sick to the back teeth of reading s*** like that Yorkie. I'm with you in principle, but people are entitled to do whatever they want to do. Doesn't make them selfish in the slightest. Just that they have a different opinion to you... it doesn't make them wrong. So f***ing holier that thou.

 

I'd say the same thing of a lot of people on the other side of the fence. You're right though, it probably is pretty condescending but I've got virtually no respect for anyone going to the game. And the situation is so deplorable that I feel fairly unconcerned about coming across as a complete dickhead.

 

There's two categories really, I should have said selfish and/or short-sighted:

 

/ If you're going to the game purely because you refuse to make a sacrifice cos its MY club and it's MY day out and it's MY right to watch the game and Mike Ashley isn't gonna stop ME watching MY club... I think you're selfish.

 

/ If you're going to the game because you genuinely don't believe that a cumulative season attendance of roughly zero would accelerate Ashley's departure... I think you're short-sighted.

 

I personally can't fathom how something as dramatic as 19 Premier League matches in a row, with a sheer vista of grey seats every single time (save for the away fans at the top, which, if nothing else, would be pretty comical) wouldn't force some kind of change. If Ashley himself wouldn't intervene by f***ing off then at least it would alert the Premier League - and the world - to the wider issue of bad ownership. It would raise awareness of the fact that it is unethical to own a football club and then not treat it as a footballing enterprise, at the very least in addition to whatever other goals or reasons you might have for ownership.

 

I realise that, by holding and publishing these views, I'm just perpetuating the supporter in-fighting which Ashley feeds off, but f*** it. Everything about the situation stinks and it all feels a bit hopeless so whatever. Dickhead unleashed.

 

I appreciate all of that but you're living in cuckoo land if you think a boycott will ever truly take off. Sure, maybe 10,000 people won't show up to Arsenal... but 7,000 of them will return the following week. People who feel strongly about it and read every bit of news and dissect everything Ashley does... some of them will stay away. But the sheer truth of the whole thing is that 80-90% of the stadium leave the match on a Saturday and don't give much more thought about it until the next game. My wife is one of them, for example. She loves going to the games (even when we're doing s***) but couldn't care less about following all the ins and outs of it all outside of that. I would say the majority of the stadium are like that.

 

I really do think the people behind AO, The Magpie Group, etc, fail to really understand that.

 

The one and only time in the last 12 years when I've noticed Ashley lashing out in frustration was last August/September when his brands were getting attacked by 1000s of fans on social media, to the point where Sports Direct didn't tweet for weeks, and the PR machine will thrown into full force. That's where the focus should lie. It's hugely misguided and pie-in-the-sky to ever believe that a boycott will happen in significant enough numbers, and regularly enough, to make any significant difference. Idealistic, sure. Realistic, nope.

 

Make owning NUFC an inconvenience for him and his shareholders... that's when he'll sell (IMO).

 

I agree, it'll never happen. I'm not making any attempt to persuade; it's pretty pointless at this stage. I've got behind and been involved at a micro level with the protest efforts in the past (did a bit of shop-shouting), but I've no energy to at this point. We've got too many people who are either selfish, short-sighted or - and thanks for throwing another one into the mix - simply don't care enough, which is arguably just a mix of the first two.

 

This, and the reason i don't think i'm coming up on Sunday for the protest, far too outnumbered by the selfish/don't care enough fans for it to be worthwhile.

 

Ashley really has won, he will leave on his own accord, and i'll be back whenever that is.

 

 

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It seems if you place blah into a valid argument several times it is a great way to counter it. I’ll have to remember that.

 

Blah.

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George Bailey

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Vermin.

That's being unkind to actual vermin.

 

Fuck him and all those like him.

Deserve the shitshow they will endure (and lap up like fucking morons) this season and subsequent years under MA and his yes men and lickspittle. They are a perfect fit for each other.

 

Oh and  this cunt is a smoggy twat to boot...bollocks to the lot of 'em.

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NEEJ

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True Faith on the local news promoting going to the game just there. Tory fanzine for a Tory owner.

What did they actually say?

 

Edit: just seen the tweet from their account. He was on the news slating the appointment of Bruce just the other week. Fucking pleb.

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