Steve Brute

[Si]

I'm so disenfranchised that there's a bit of me that's thinking this is the prelude to a half season ticket deal. Steve earning his wedge, I went to Mike and got you this deal.

[Yorkie]

December home games:

 

Last season: 50,000 and 51,000

Season before: 52,000, 52,000 and 52,000

Season before (Championship): 52,000, 52,000 and 52,000, including the highest of the season on Boxing Day.

 

Wonder why we're 10k short this time? Thank God we've got a proper Geordie to explain.

[Disco]

I think there’s some sort of inferiority complex ingrained in the Geordie mindset. When charmers like Keegan or Rafa roll in, its lapped up.

 

We’ve had worse managers than Bruce. We’ve had better for sure but we have had worse and they’ve never gotten the sort of shit this guy has.

 

Even a cunt like Allardyce got welcomed more than this chap, not at the end but that was his own doing. He was given a fair chance from the start.

 

Bruce hasn’t. He’s exceeded all expectations. But because he’s a local lad he’s judged differently. He’ll never be accepted because the majority of supporters would rather have someone they don’t feel worthy of having.

 

 

 

He’s had nothing but support at games, home and away, and from the local and national media. Stick to the fake messages.

[ToonArmy1892]

He has absolutely no shame this bloke.

 

Hides behind his 'nice guy' image.

[Rafalove]

He’s not accepted because his managerial career is steeped in failure and he’s palpably f***ing s***. Indian summers here and there don’t mask the fact he’s achieved and won nothing as a manager in about 20 years. He’s poor and he’s taken the job knowing he’s going to be willingly pushing the Ashley narrative. He’s a f***ing arsehole.

[Greg]

49,937 v Man City

51,198 v Man United

 

Are we picking and choosing who we protest against?

 

No, those seats are being filled by others.

[Stifler]

Is it just me, or does his nose appear to getting more mangled?

[ToonArmy1892]

[huss9]

he's fucked up with ASM. admits he was fatigued and carrying a knock.

 

to start him was a risk but to flog him for 90 minutes is indefensible. it was clear today he wasnt burning on cylinders and was playing within himself. but bruce is so desperately dependent on the likes of ASM conjuring up something out of nothing that he'd play him whatever. its all about the short-term rather than the bigger picture with him.

 

also forced into bringing on Schar, and even then he proceeds to play him out of position.

 

 

 

[Odear]

I think there’s some sort of inferiority complex ingrained in the Geordie mindset. When charmers like Keegan or Rafa roll in, its lapped up.

 

We’ve had worse managers than Bruce. We’ve had better for sure but we have had worse and they’ve never gotten the sort of s*** this guy has.

 

Even a c*** like Allardyce got welcomed more than this chap, not at the end but that was his own doing. He was given a fair chance from the start.

 

Bruce hasn’t. He’s exceeded all expectations. But because he’s a local lad he’s judged differently. He’ll never be accepted because the majority of supporters would rather have someone they don’t feel worthy of having.

 

 

 

Go on then. What makes him a good manager?

 

Read my post, I’ve never said he was a good manager.

 

I said we’ve had worse which is true.

 

He’s doing a decent job at present with a slightly worse squad than last year and far more injuries. As Rafa would say “those are the facts”.

 

There’s not really much to debate about it. My point is that he will never be accepted even if he does go on to do a better job here than Rafa did.

 

Is that fair?

[Pons Alias]

Well your point about inferiority is utter bollocks. Rafa and Keegan treated the fans with respect. That’s it.

[r0cafella]

This is honestly Pardew all over again, same arguments. Infuriating

 

I was watching the game last night and thought exactly this.

 

Was like watching the Pardew days over again.

 

More of the same purgatory for us.

[TRon]

I think there’s some sort of inferiority complex ingrained in the Geordie mindset. When charmers like Keegan or Rafa roll in, its lapped up.

 

We’ve had worse managers than Bruce. We’ve had better for sure but we have had worse and they’ve never gotten the sort of s*** this guy has.

 

Even a c*** like Allardyce got welcomed more than this chap, not at the end but that was his own doing. He was given a fair chance from the start.

 

Bruce hasn’t. He’s exceeded all expectations. But because he’s a local lad he’s judged differently. He’ll never be accepted because the majority of supporters would rather have someone they don’t feel worthy of having.

 

 

 

Go on then. What makes him a good manager?

 

Read my post, I’ve never said he was a good manager.

 

I said we’ve had worse which is true.

 

He’s doing a decent job at present with a slightly worse squad than last year and far more injuries. As Rafa would say “those are the facts”.

 

There’s not really much to debate about it. My point is that he will never be accepted even if he does go on to do a better job here than Rafa did.

 

Is that fair?

 

So you don't think he's a good manager, but you think the locals who won't accept him have an inferiority complex because he's a Geordie? You don't think we deserve a good manager?

 

 

[LV]

I think there’s some sort of inferiority complex ingrained in the Geordie mindset. When charmers like Keegan or Rafa roll in, its lapped up.

 

We’ve had worse managers than Bruce. We’ve had better for sure but we have had worse and they’ve never gotten the sort of shit this guy has.

 

Even a cunt like Allardyce got welcomed more than this chap, not at the end but that was his own doing. He was given a fair chance from the start.

 

Bruce hasn’t. He’s exceeded all expectations. But because he’s a local lad he’s judged differently. He’ll never be accepted because the majority of supporters would rather have someone they don’t feel worthy of having.

 

 

 

He deserves every bit of stick he gets

 

And ‘charmers’ like Rafa and Keegan. Are you on drugs? Those two were as genuine and honest as they come with obvious ideals and morality. The very antithesis of fork-tongued ‘charmers’ like Pardew.

 

Anyway, how’s Midhat?

[LV]

it's so similar to the Pardew 5th season. Credit where it's due to Bruce for getting the results at the moment

No credit at all. You've said it yourself that it's similar to the 5th place season. The following season proved that we finished 5th in spite of Pardew, not because of him.

 

Give over. Yeah Pardew was shit overall, but he deserved some credit for the season we finished 5th, as does Bruce for having a decent start to his time here.

 

I'm sure the wheels will come off eventually (as they did with Pardew), but you can't say whenever we win, it is in spite of the manager.

 

Yes you can when it’s true.

 

Pardew deserves zero credit. The fella was a fraud and so is this guy. Bruce will soon be on the same scrapheap that Pardew finds himself on and rightly so. Time is up for the likes of them in footballing terms.

[Klaus]

it's so similar to the Pardew 5th season. Credit where it's due to Bruce for getting the results at the moment

No credit at all. You've said it yourself that it's similar to the 5th place season. The following season proved that we finished 5th in spite of Pardew, not because of him.

 

Give over. Yeah Pardew was shit overall, but he deserved some credit for the season we finished 5th, as does Bruce for having a decent start to his time here.

 

I'm sure the wheels will come off eventually (as they did with Pardew), but you can't say whenever we win, it is in spite of the manager.

 

Yes you can when it’s true.

 

Pardew deserves zero credit. The fella was a fraud and so is this guy. Bruce will soon be on the same scrapheap that Pardew finds himself on and rightly so. Time is up for the likes of them in footballing terms.

 

Christ. Some right miserable cunts in here

[samptime29]

it's so similar to the Pardew 5th season. Credit where it's due to Bruce for getting the results at the moment

No credit at all. You've said it yourself that it's similar to the 5th place season. The following season proved that we finished 5th in spite of Pardew, not because of him.

 

Give over. Yeah Pardew was shit overall, but he deserved some credit for the season we finished 5th, as does Bruce for having a decent start to his time here.

 

I'm sure the wheels will come off eventually (as they did with Pardew), but you can't say whenever we win, it is in spite of the manager.

 

Yes you can when it’s true.

 

Pardew deserves zero credit. The fella was a fraud and so is this guy. Bruce will soon be on the same scrapheap that Pardew finds himself on and rightly so. Time is up for the likes of them in footballing terms.

 

Christ. Some right miserable cunts in here

 

This board is so negative like.

[Conjo]

If anyone's a "charmer" it's fucking Bruce

All former managers Odin is referring to came in under different circumstances where people wanted their predecessor out, hence why they got a fair crack from fans, unlike with Bruce where we had a manager that wanted to stay who was loved by the fans.

 

I agree that people go over the top on Bruce. He's not the problem, but I think a lot of people feel somewhat betrayed that he's taken the job knowing what that means he's signed up for, against the advice of close friends like Shearer, actively working towards keeping Ashley here for as long as possible.

 

I was pretty happy when he signed as I thought it meant we'd be certain for relegation and thus bigger chance of getting Ashley out….

[Odear]

Well your point about inferiority is utter bollocks. Rafa and Keegan treated the fans with respect. That’s it.

 

They got nothing but love from the fans from the get go right until the end. Bruce hasn’t.

 

I’m not saying he’s a good manager. His track record suggests otherwise, but also you can only work with that’s in front of you. His career could have gone another way if he’d been more patient but he chose to take jobs at shit clubs. Which eventually ruled him out of any big job by association. And now he’s here. I’m not going to say we’re a big club, we’re certainly not top 6 anymore, maybe not even top 8. But we’ve had nothing but failure as a club for my whole life at least.

 

I hope for more, but I don’t think we’re entitled to it, not anymore. We’re a medium sized club with potential. That’s all.

 

Rafa could have done great things but we all know what happened there. Mike took a 6 million a year gamble on him either keeping us up or getting us back first time of asking and then consolidate. Mission accomplished. Rafa wasn’t needed from that point on.

 

I don’t think even Pardew got the stick Bruce has been given from the start. He clearly doesn’t deserve that. Also the squad Pardew had when we were 5th is light years ahead of the one we have now. So any comparisons to what we’re doing this season is totally unwarranted.

 

Like someone pointed out before, we can’t have it both ways. We lose a match, “oh Bruce is a useless wanker, all his fault..”

 

We win a match “oh he’s just using Rafa’s tactics”

 

Pure negativity

[Tsunami]

Bruce’s substitutions won us the game yesterday, ASM’s injury was down to him going full tilt right at the end. It was in front of us and everyone was thinking wtf is he doing, it was like he was in an Olympic final. Not going to criticise him for trying but it was the hardest he ran all game and there was no real need to win that race.

[Mattoon]

Well your point about inferiority is utter bollocks. Rafa and Keegan treated the fans with respect. That’s it.

 

They got nothing but love from the fans from the get go right until the end. Bruce hasn’t.

 

I’m not saying he’s a good manager. His track record suggests otherwise, but also you can only work with that’s in front of you. His career could have gone another way if he’d been more patient but he chose to take jobs at shit clubs. Which eventually ruled him out of any big job by association. And now he’s here. I’m not going to say we’re a big club, we’re certainly not top 6 anymore, maybe not even top 8. But we’ve had nothing but failure as a club for my whole life at least.

 

I hope for more, but I don’t think we’re entitled to it, not anymore. We’re a medium sized club with potential. That’s all.

 

Rafa could have done great things but we all know what happened there. Mike took a 6 million a year gamble on him either keeping us up or getting us back first time of asking and then consolidate. Mission accomplished. Rafa wasn’t needed from that point on.

 

I don’t think even Pardew got the stick Bruce has been given from the start. He clearly doesn’t deserve that. Also the squad Pardew had when we were 5th is light years ahead of the one we have now. So any comparisons to what we’re doing this season is totally unwarranted.

 

Like someone pointed out before, we can’t have it both ways. We lose a match, “oh Bruce is a useless wanker, all his fault..”

 

We win a match “oh he’s just using Rafa’s tactics”

 

Pure negativity

 

Oh gtf. Keegan, Robson and Rafa all came with some kind of reputation and pedigree and all treated the club and the fans with respect from the get go. Bruce came in with a piss poor record everywhere he'd been, threw his toys out the pram, told us we all should respect him and instead of showing anyone he understood the fans and the club he told us he was a Geordie and a fan going against everything he said when he was at Sunderland. He's an extension of Ashley, another lickspittle shill, here to do the bidding of his master and accept whatever shit sandwich is thrown at him. You come in under those circumstances then you lose all credibility from the start.

 

Rafa talked of potential, of building something for the future, being able to work within a strict model and still bring success, Bruce came in and jizzed over a £40m flop forced into his hands. You earn respect and he's failed at every step and the more he demands it, the more he ostracizes himself.

 

It's obvious to anyone who has eyes that this "football" is amongst some of the worst we've ever played, yes he's using Rafa's tactics but beyond defence first he's lost the plot, we're disjointed and scrappy going forward, we have no control in games, no fluidity in attack and no plan B. For all Rafa's negative tactics you could see a plan and we countered with speed, accuracy and precision, not this disjointed abortion we're forced to watch now.

 

We're winning games because of the tenacity of the players, the never say die attitude and the belief that they're in it until the final whistle, not because of some tactical masterclass.

[samptime29]

The players are working hard for Bruce. No doubt about that.

 

I said a few weeks ago, I don't like the constant personal attacks.

 

Be critical of footballing issues, but the "fat cunt, dickhead, cabbage head" shit is just childish.

 

 

[LV]

it's so similar to the Pardew 5th season. Credit where it's due to Bruce for getting the results at the moment

No credit at all. You've said it yourself that it's similar to the 5th place season. The following season proved that we finished 5th in spite of Pardew, not because of him.

 

Give over. Yeah Pardew was shit overall, but he deserved some credit for the season we finished 5th, as does Bruce for having a decent start to his time here.

 

I'm sure the wheels will come off eventually (as they did with Pardew), but you can't say whenever we win, it is in spite of the manager.

 

Yes you can when it’s true.

 

Pardew deserves zero credit. The fella was a fraud and so is this guy. Bruce will soon be on the same scrapheap that Pardew finds himself on and rightly so. Time is up for the likes of them in footballing terms.

 

Christ. Some right miserable cunts in here

 

I’m anything but miserable, cheers.

 

Plenty of revisionists though it seems. Strange.

[HawK]

Problem for me is that he couldn't even manage to do as expected, which would be about as well as Steve McClaren. Instead, he's overshot and gone full Pardew. Horrible, horrible on-the-ball play and somehow winning matches with just one or two chances all game and relying on the brilliance of a charismatic new French winger. Sound familiar?

[Disco]