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As per , pissing in the wind, the PL will never let this through. Give it up.

 

The PL cannot just "never let this through".

 

There are rules, and if they do not conform to the rules (whether they are 'their own' rules or not) they can be persuaded to do so, by legal means.

 

That is exactly the stage we are now at.

 

Nobody said it would be quick, or easy, but I do not understand these "throwing in the towel" types. Do they REALLY think like that, or are they just trying to wind us up?

 

Are they like that in their own lives . . always giving up when there is no reason to do so?

 

 

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As per , pissing in the wind, the PL will never let this through. Give it up.

 

The PL cannot just "never let this through".

 

There are rules, and if they do not conform to the rules (whether they are 'their own' rules or not) they can be persuaded to do so, by legal means.

 

That is exactly the stage we are now at.

 

Nobody said it would be quick, or easy, but I do not understand these "throwing in the towel" types. Do they REALLY think like that, or are they just trying to wind us up?

 

Are they like that in their own lives . . always giving up when there is no reason to do so?

 

 

 

Maybe some people don’t have the energy for it any more. There is absolutely every chance the PL win the legal case.

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As per , pissing in the wind, the PL will never let this through. Give it up.

 

The PL cannot just "never let this through".

 

There are rules, and if they do not conform to the rules (whether they are 'their own' rules or not) they can be persuaded to do so, by legal means.

 

That is exactly the stage we are now at.

 

Nobody said it would be quick, or easy, but I do not understand these "throwing in the towel" types. Do they REALLY think like that, or are they just trying to wind us up?

 

Are they like that in their own lives . . always giving up when there is no reason to do so?

 

 

 

Maybe some people don’t have the energy for it any more. There is absolutely every chance the PL win the legal case.

 

Maybe they will, but no one should be telling other supporters to give it up.

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As per , pissing in the wind, the PL will never let this through.Give it up.

 

Just stay away from this thread. We know your opinion/thoughts already. You're just an annoying little cunt offering nothing. At least some of the people who don't see this going through can come up with something more acceptable/interesting.

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As per , pissing in the wind, the PL will never let this through. Give it up.

 

The PL cannot just "never let this through".

 

There are rules, and if they do not conform to the rules (whether they are 'their own' rules or not) they can be persuaded to do so, by legal means.

 

That is exactly the stage we are now at.

 

Nobody said it would be quick, or easy, but I do not understand these "throwing in the towel" types. Do they REALLY think like that, or are they just trying to wind us up?

 

Are they like that in their own lives . . always giving up when there is no reason to do so?

 

 

 

Maybe some people don’t have the energy for it any more. There is absolutely every chance the PL win the legal case.

 

Maybe they will, but no one should be telling other supporters to give it up.

 

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To me, the situation is clear.

 

  • I have no interest in watching a Newcastle that can't and won't compete in a cartel league
  • If the takeover succeeds then I may get the passion back for NUFC but make no mistake its still a cartel league
  • If the takeover fails and we are left with Ashley and Bruce, and 23% football with 1 shot on target, if we are lucky, then that's not for me.  It bores me silly and football is meant to be entertainment, a chance to get lost in a moment!

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To me, the situation is clear.

 

  • I have no interest in watching a Newcastle that can't and won't compete in a cartel league
  • If the takeover succeeds then I may get the passion back for NUFC but make no mistake its still a cartel league
  • If the takeover fails and we are left with Ashley and Bruce, and 23% football with 1 shot on target, if we are lucky, then that's not for me.  It bores me silly and football is meant to be entertainment, a chance to get lost in a moment!

 

This is totally me as well. I'm literally clinging onto that bit hope that this whole thing gets sorted, it's a last resort for me. I dont watch football hardly anymore because of what has happened to us with this takeover. I watch us out of habit but just cannot be arsed to watch anything else. If it does eventually all go tits up, that is me out. What on earth is the point in supporting a team in a league where you're not allowed to compete with the big lads. In fact you are stopped from doing so. That's not football.

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To me, the situation is clear.

 

  • I have no interest in watching a Newcastle that can't and won't compete in a cartel league
  • If the takeover succeeds then I may get the passion back for NUFC but make no mistake its still a cartel league
  • If the takeover fails and we are left with Ashley and Bruce, and 23% football with 1 shot on target, if we are lucky, then that's not for me.  It bores me silly and football is meant to be entertainment, a chance to get lost in a moment!

 

This is totally me as well. I'm literally clinging onto that bit hope that this whole thing gets sorted, it's a last resort for me. I dont watch football hardly anymore because of what has happened to us with this takeover. I watch us out of habit but just cannot be arsed to watch anything else. If it does eventually all go tits up, that is me out. What on earth is the point in supporting a team in a league where you're not allowed to compete with the big lads. In fact you are stopped from doing so. That's not football.

 

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Hopefully the Trust get behind the lads at NCSL, they deserve everyone’s support.

 

Peter Clennell

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@oldheatonian

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@nufctrust

The Council discussed whether we could assist

@NCSL1892

, I spoke with Keith Patterson who is keen to display solidarity - I have communicated our discussion back to the NUST Board as the Council are not there to make decisions, that is what the elected Board are there to do.

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Hopefully the Trust get behind the lads at NCSL, they deserve everyone’s support.

 

Peter Clennell

@ClennellPeter

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8m

Replying to

@oldheatonian

and

@nufctrust

The Council discussed whether we could assist

@NCSL1892

, I spoke with Keith Patterson who is keen to display solidarity - I have communicated our discussion back to the NUST Board as the Council are not there to make decisions, that is what the elected Board are there to do.

 

Doubt they will.

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I think I'd potentially be able to take the shit football if there was some philosophy or attempt at progression behind it.  Under Rafa we were dreadful at times, but he built a good foundation at the back, with players who'd play the ball into the midfield. Under Bruce, it's aimless.

 

The club will never truly progress until Ashley leaves, this had been well covered, but there's also no reason to watch when there has been no effort from the manager to stamp an identity on the team.

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Couldn’t sum it up any better than this, I’m quite sure O’Donoghue and De Marco are aware of the basics.

 

Steve

@oldheatonian

reporters and lawyers dipping in with opinion questioning a legal case they have no direct involvement in and more importantly without sighting of the case file nor spoken to the party bringing the case or any members of their legal team. Wow. That stirring the #nufc fan pot

 

I doubt the issue of standing is as cut and dried as some are suggesting. People are making the assumption that they can’t have standing because they’re just two fans, however, one or both of them are also likely to be customers of the club.

 

There could be an advantage in and reason for a case being brought by fans, according to the government guidance the CAT fast-track process is generally only open to individuals and small business. If the case were being brought by the club or consortium it might be less likely to be handled under the fast-track process.

 

CAT cases can be brought by customers, the guidance gives an example of a purchaser of a product who has had to pay more for it because the manufacturer or retailer has infringed competition law.

 

Just speculating but there are possibly ways that standing could be demonstrated in relation to any season ticket holder. We’re in a situation where the PL would rather keep an owner who has withheld refunds from season ticket holders in place than allow owners to take control who could potentially threaten the established big 6.

 

Even if the loss demonstrated is pennies, a big compensation pay-out clearly isn’t the goal here, it’s a judgement that the PL have breached competition law in their actions.

 

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Couldn’t sum it up any better than this, I’m quite sure O’Donoghue and De Marco are aware of the basics.

 

Steve

@oldheatonian

reporters and lawyers dipping in with opinion questioning a legal case they have no direct involvement in and more importantly without sighting of the case file nor spoken to the party bringing the case or any members of their legal team. Wow. That stirring the #nufc fan pot

 

I doubt the issue of standing is as cut and dried as some are suggesting. People are making the assumption that they can’t have standing because they’re just two fans, however, one or both of them are also likely to be customers of the club.

 

There could be an advantage in and reason for a case being brought by fans, according to the government guidance the CAT fast-track process is generally only open to individuals and small business. If the case were being brought by the club or consortium it might be less likely to be handled under the fast-track process.

 

CAT cases can be brought by customers, the guidance gives an example of a purchaser of a product who has had to pay more for it because the manufacturer or retailer has infringed competition law.

 

Just speculating but there are possibly ways that standing could be demonstrated in relation to any season ticket holder. We’re in a situation where the PL would rather keep an owner who has withheld refunds from season ticket holders in place than allow owners to take control who could potentially threaten the established big 6.

 

Even if the loss demonstrated is pennies, a big compensation pay-out clearly isn’t the goal here, it’s a judgement that the PL have breached competition law in their actions.

 

 

I'm sure the QC the NCSL have employed would know and will have told them at a very early stage whether they had standing or not. Fuck what Luke Edward's has "been told". That dickhead has found a negative in everything about the takeover from the start just because he has no sources around the deal. Plus he loves Steve Bruce and we'll not even mention what he "was told" about Henry Mauriss.

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