Guest reefatoon Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, NE27 said: Not sure I do considering the backlash like I'll take just being competitive ala wolves/Leicester/Southampton right now please haha Wew, we don’t want to be like Chinese owned Wolves or Thai owned Leicester, not with capital punishment rife in their countries, especially China where it leads the way by a country mile, and all those questions the managers get asked about it constantly……They do don’t they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 04/03/2022 at 18:01, The Prophet said: You're right it's not on us as football fans, I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is a show of support for Ukraine, while Yemen is blockaded, is bad optics at best. There is barely any coverage on Yemen, though, so ignorance is only to be expected. When the media coverage of Yemen matches that of Ukraine, it's fair to point the finger at the uninformed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Sima said: There wouldn't be nowhere near this much fewm against us if the following had not happened 1) Chelsea sanctioned. 2) Our resurgence in form coupled with putting in a strong performance (with a weakened team) at the weekend against one of their beloved top six. I do wonder if we had not had the uptick in form and we're still in the bottom three we would be getting the same level of flack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Sima said: There wouldn't be nowhere near this much fewm against us if the following had not happened 1) Chelsea sanctioned. 2) Our resurgence in form coupled with putting in a strong performance (with a weakened team) at the weekend against one of their beloved top six. It is weird like. I can understand on Sunday there was going to be a backlash because of the executions in SA, but it still felt like that was more to take the focus off Chelsea. Tuchel has had a very sympathetic press, and deservedly so, but I don't think it's fair to deride Howe for not speaking up more against our owners. For a start they are still his employers whereas Tuchel's boss has been kicked out. That does make it a lot easier for him to be more expressive. At the end of the day, NUFC ownership is not involved with the invasion of another country. If anything, we as a nation, seem to have really close ties to Saudi Arabia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, TRon said: It is weird like. I can understand on Sunday there was going to be a backlash because of the executions in SA, but it still felt like that was more to take the focus off Chelsea. Tuchel has had a very sympathetic press, and deservedly so, but I don't think it's fair to deride Howe for not speaking up more against our owners. For a start they are still his employers whereas Tuchel's boss has been kicked out. That does make it a lot easier for him to be more expressive. At the end of the day, NUFC ownership is not involved with the invasion of another country. If anything, we as a nation, seem to have really close ties to Saudi Arabia. Abramovich still owns Chelsea, he hasn't been kicked out, he probably has no option but to agree to the club being sold but he is still the owner for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 hour ago, reefatoon said: Wew, we don’t want to be like Chinese owned Wolves or Thai owned Leicester, not with capital punishment rife in their countries, especially China where it leads the way by a country mile, and all those questions the managers get asked about it constantly……They do don’t they? Surely this is a pisstake at this stage? There's a difference between the government and private individuals from a particular country Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, triggs said: Surely this is a pisstake at this stage? There's a difference between the government and private individuals from a particular country Not always, especially when ‘private’ individuals need the agreement of said government to invest abroad and have to sell when ordered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Abramovich still owns Chelsea, he hasn't been kicked out, he probably has no option but to agree to the club being sold but he is still the owner for now. Technically he's still the owner, but in reality he's not. Tuchel would certainly find it a lot easier to speak up against Russia now that Abramovich has been sanctioned and effectively thrown out of Chelsea football club. Howe is not really in the same position is he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, TRon said: Technically he's still the owner, but in reality he's not. Tuchel would certainly find it a lot easier to speak up against Russia now that Abramovich has been sanctioned and effectively thrown out of Chelsea football club. Howe is not really in the same position is he? In reality he is still the owner, he could decide not to sell, but eventually the club would become worthless under the sanctions and potential penalties from the PL for not removing a banned director. Yeah, Howe isn't in the same position because the owners of the club are acceptable in the eyes of the government and PL, if there are questions to be asked they should be of them rather than Howe. But Tuchel is continuing to manage a club whose owner has close ties with Putin and whose supporters continue to chant the name of, he does not deserve sympathetic press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 There’s no chance anything will happen to us. Johnson is literally in the ME begging for cheap oil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Just now, Thomson Mouse said: There’s no chance anything will happen to us. Johnson is literally in the ME begging for cheap oil “Oh and about that Aramco branding on the strip?” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 36 minutes ago, triggs said: Surely this is a pisstake at this stage? There's a difference between the government and private individuals from a particular country Can't believe this still needs to be said. Being charitable, if they're oligarchs or 'entrepreneurs' (without there being any difference in political influence) there's much less of a difference than we've been saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10616249/Minister-investigate-assurances-Newcastle-United-gave-Premier-League-Saudi-role-club.html What are the odds this is going to go badly wrong, with no specific evidence of assurances or something equally shit, but was simply rushed through by the PL because of the legal fight and resolution of the Bein issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, Manxst said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10616249/Minister-investigate-assurances-Newcastle-United-gave-Premier-League-Saudi-role-club.html What are the odds this is going to go badly wrong, with no specific evidence of assurances or something equally shit, but was simply rushed through by the PL because of the legal fight and resolution of the Bein issue? I’d assume the assurances where always pretty watertight, that was never the issue it was always about piracy. They just used it as a reason to delay it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Jackie Broon said: In reality he is still the owner, he could decide not to sell, but eventually the club would become worthless under the sanctions and potential penalties from the PL for not removing a banned director. Yeah, Howe isn't in the same position because the owners of the club are acceptable in the eyes of the government and PL, if there are questions to be asked they should be of them rather than Howe. But Tuchel is continuing to manage a club whose owner has close ties with Putin and whose supporters continue to chant the name of, he does not deserve sympathetic press. I'm sure from a legal standpoint you are right, but Tuchel knows that Abramovich is in position to sanction him if he says something the Russian doesn't like. In reality, Tuchel's own future as a boss in England would be more at risk if he turned a blind eye. Howe's situation is very different in that he is working for owners who are present and fully empowered to react negatively to any perceived criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Manxst said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10616249/Minister-investigate-assurances-Newcastle-United-gave-Premier-League-Saudi-role-club.html What are the odds this is going to go badly wrong, with no specific evidence of assurances or something equally shit, but was simply rushed through by the PL because of the legal fight and resolution of the Bein issue? Billion to one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Is it not easier for the government minister to ask Boris ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: Billion to one Yes, 10 Bilion to one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I’d say the assurances amount to whatever the PL would have had to pay out in compensation. As if after 2 years or whatever they just had a eureka moment and came up with wording that made everyone happy… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky Jim Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Didn’t know where to put this…but thought our takeover thread probably appropriate. RE Chelsea sale. Premier League chief executive Richard Masters said earlier this month: "The quickest one [sale of a club] we've done is 10 days, but that's not to say it can't be beaten. "Normally it's a matter of weeks but it depends on the complexities and the number of potential owners." Just goes to show how “The supposed big 6” run this league…….Newcastle sale, 2 years……Chelsea inside 10 days….you just couldn’t make it up could you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Aramco profits for 2021 an eye watering 110 billion US dollars. Dividends (to PIF I presume) for Q4 stood at 18.8 billion USD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Aramco profits for 2021 an eye watering 110 billion US dollars. Dividends (to PIF I presume) for Q4 stood at 18.8 billion USD. Standing to make much more than that this year as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Wonder what this means for NUFC’s ability to do commercial deals?… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Doesn't feel like FFP has been in place for a decade already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Chronicle with this headline.. The goal machine Newcastle United should sign......" The article has this quote "Two blank showings against Everton and Leeds" Do these journalists actually do any research at all ? https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/goal-machine-newcastle-united-should-23449726 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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