SUPERTOON Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I get both points of view, my argument about his defensive record is mainly that we all know how shit our defenders are yet our team is also set up in a way that offers them zero protection. I just feel he could set the team up differently in our current situation to offer maximum protection to the defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: I get both points of view, my argument about his defensive record is mainly that we all know how shit our defenders are yet our team is also set up in a way that offers them zero protection. I just feel he could set the team up differently in our current situation to offer maximum protection to the defence. From what I've seen we don't look particularly vulnerable defensively from a tactical POV though. It's not like we are throwing everyone forward and leaving ourselves wide open, we've generally been quite compact as far as our shape goes. We are getting undone by ricks and individual mistakes out of nowhere for the most part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, TRon said: From what I've seen we don't look particularly vulnerable defensively from a tactical POV though. It's not like we are throwing everyone forward and leaving ourselves wide open, we've generally been quite compact as far as our shape goes. We are getting undone by ricks and individual mistakes out of nowhere for the most part. Yep. The shape generally looks ok - some of the mistakes are just catastrophically terrible. Where Howe can be faulted is the selection of some of those most prone to making those errors (Darlow, Clark, Ritchie, Lascelles etc) - I think four points were chucked away against Brentford and Norwich as a result. Harder to blame his selections now though, as the injuries rack up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I'm hoping the working on the system rather than just game to game will now start to pay dividends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 8 hours ago, GWN said: when he buys some decent fucking players man, these are shite , that’s my metric, you can’t polish an ageing turd that has stunk for ages . Are you one of the fans very quick to turn on him? If so tell me why . this team has been battered for a long time now , devoid of confidence and ability, devoid of investment, stuck with championship players for years . EH is no miracle worker but in the position he took the job on our club was in not even Pep could turn this rag bag shite squad into a team that will stay up . he is trying to get the best out of the shite , we have improved slightly but dopey decisions by players that shouldn’t be near this club have cost him . seriously if you are having a pop at him already then I’m staggered , yet not surprised at some of our fan base . He was one of a few who would take this on , judge him next season when he’s had a fucking chance ok. My position remains as it has been and would be with anyone we appointed. if we invest money in January and get relegated then the manager has failed. and I’m not having a pop, any critique I’ve made has been constructive and objective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I'd agree with that. I like Howe a lot, he talks a good game and he wants to get us playing but he's being hamstrung by what he's inherited. Rafa took over a team in a similar state, easy to forget we went to Southampton and got well beaten, shipped 3 at Norwich etc during his early games. It takes time to turn things around and we always knew this run of games was going to be bleak. Hopefully we have at least learned something out of them, such as Joelinton being useful in midfield compared to his colleagues. That Everton game looks huge, especially if they are still depleted (and we somehow avoid that). As it stands we're only 3 points from safety, obviously games in hands and goal difference means it's probably more than that but the bottom half of the league is really quite poor. You've got to think if we can get a few players in we're capable of staying up. We're looking desperate for centre backs, full backs and a proper holding midfielder. That's at the very least. An extra striker to help Wilson out would also be nice. Teams are going to play silly buggers with us in January, I've no doubt. They know we've got the money and we're desperate for quick purchases. I'll be surprised if other PL clubs deal with us, maybe towards the end of the month when another 5 or 6 games have slipped away. I know there'll be people who want us to fuck off the FA Cup but I think any opportunity to build confidence should be taken. I seem to remember the mackems doing it years ago under Poyet where they looked doomed but some decent cup wins seemed to ignite their league form and they stayed up comfortably in the end, if I'm remembering properly. He also shit on the floor and got sacked so maybe don't do that. Anyway, the optimist in me says we could take 6 points from Everton & Southampton and the world will look a different place. Make it happen Eddie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Didn't know that Don Howe is Eddie's dad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 He's not is he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: He's not is he? It's not overly clear from a Google search or Wikipedia but it says so on Transfermarkt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Pretty sure he isn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 They're not related. Eddie's mum is called Anne, Don's wife was called Pauline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Thank fuck for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Transfermarkt talking bollocks then. Ah whey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, Shearergol said: They're not related. Eddie's mum is called Anne, Don's wife was called Pauline. Could just be that wor Don was a bit of a slut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Didnt we get through 10 pages of this when he was appointed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Lazarus said: Didnt we get through 10 pages of this when he was appointed? Aye. I thought Haydn was on the wind up at first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 That was honestly one of the best performance's from an NUFC team in years, the way pressured, the way we where direct in attack was class, and for the most part defended well. Excruciating we didn't win that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Just now, 54 said: That was honestly one of the best performance's from an NUFC team in years, the way pressured, the way we where direct in attack was class, and for the most part defended well. Excruciating we didn't win that. 100% agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Very Rafa like in terms of tactics, but more goal threat and we deserved to win, give him the right players and we will excel under him. Very impressed tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Anyone still not seeing the improvement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I know we had injuries tonight but that fitness in the last 10 was great to see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Spot on with selection, subs and gameplan there, no complaints from me tonight. Feel like we go 2 up there without the Wilson injury as he'd have buried that Maxi chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 This is shaping up rather nicely. That performance should be the benchmark. If so, we’re in for a fun second half of the season. Onwards and upwards! Just a shame we couldn’t wrap it up today, should’ve won that to be honest. By far the better team and the increase in pressing, fitness, team shape and balance is like night and day. It’s almost like he knows what he’s doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I love how brave he is in terms of not just trying not to lose, we are seeing signs that we are going after teams even if it’s not in possession, but in transitions and trying to create chances. We are going for wins basically! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Low level fewming we didn’t win in his interview. We’ll probably go down but can see it being like the “Rafagation” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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