Kanji Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 I’m less on about Howe and more on about the players who aren’t doing the business on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 100% about certain players for me. We are well organised and using the ball well enough. Certain players in the first 11 are just hopeless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 I just felt he could have tried something different. Put Almiron on the left and Fraser on the right to try and stretch it a bit. Just felt like 96 mins of the same stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 minute ago, joeyt said: I just felt he could have tried something different. Put Almiron on the left and Fraser on the right to try and stretch it a bit. Just felt like 96 mins of the same stuff Possibly because we have zero options and Eddie knows that, as we get better players I am confident we will see more in game management and adapting to the opposition, but hand on heat I don't think any of our bench or some of the players who started are up to changing the formation mid game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) The club EH joined was on it's knees and heading in one direction. Eddie Howe gets eternal credit and respect from me for what he achieved with the disorganized, unfit rabble left behind by the fat fraud. Now he has a different club and different problems. He has scrutiny from all sides and that comes from the investment we've made (it'll get mentioned at every opportunity by those who hope he fails), leading to massively increased expectation in the "must have it all now" era we live in, even though you have to factor in 15 years of virtually none at all. What we've given him is the basic minimum he needed to get the squad somewhere near where it should be. There's gaps and they'll be filled, just not overnight. Now he has to have the shoulders broad enough to deal with any inevitable criticism, even from within our own fanbase, who clearly have very short memories. I back him to succeed long term, he just has "it" and one or two scrappy performances and poor results as he deals with injuries to key players and teams who come to frustrate us don't change that. Edited September 17, 2022 by LionOfGosforth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Results aren't really indicative of the performances right now imo. We're playing better than the results would suggest but I absolutely accept that there is a large amount of frustration over dropping points. I'm sure Howe is just as pissed off but it's a fine line at the minute because of all of the draws. Absolutely not going to start papping my wackers at the draws and I'm sure that the winds will come once we have a few more bodies back. Still got complete faith in Howe to make it happen, now is not the time to start pointing fingers and booing and shit like that, it'll turn soon enough. We need every quality player in the squad on the pitch to play these games and we've barely had that all season. Keep the faith, it'll happen gentlemen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Probably his strongest post match comments today. I'm a bit worried he's trying to model us like a proper possession side - that just doesn't sit right in terms of who we are, imo, even if we had the squad we wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Fuck all to worry about we’re just not firing at the minute, happens to the best. Crucially we’re not losing and we’ll start turning these draws into wins very shortly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 I rejoice that we have a manager who is critical of a 1-1 home draw, in a game where we dominated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said: Probably his strongest post match comments today. I'm a bit worried he's trying to model us like a proper possession side - that just doesn't sit right in terms of who we are, imo, even if we had the squad we wanted. Agreed. This is what I’m on about regarding learning about SJP and the fans. A good NUFC team is fast and direct. It has to be. The crowd will moan and groan with too many sideways passing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 39 minutes ago, Theregulars said: What makes Murphy better than Ritchie? Which facet of his game do you think makes him a preferable option? Is it the never finishing a chance, constantly hitting the first man or being knocked off the ball easier than a wet towel? Murphy is not a good player, but Ritchie is finished at this level. Ritchie got rinsed quite a few times the last period he was in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 35 minutes ago, KaKa said: 100% about certain players for me. We are well organised and using the ball well enough. Certain players in the first 11 are just hopeless. I think its the players outside the first 11 that are the issue. A few injuries and we are very average Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 An early goal in of these home games would do us wonders, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Also fair to point out that we've only lost 6 league games from 27 going back to December 19th last year and we played Liverpool and Man City 4 times in that time. Also, the prior 2 defeats before that date were also against Liverpool and Man City. 6 fucking fixtures against those teams since the middle of last December. Of those 6 defeats, I honestly think only Spurs and City (A) gave us a real going over. Just need to give even myself that perspective sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 First game this season where I’ve really been annoyed with the result & performance. Palace we should have won also but we were robbed. The fact is we don’t score enough goals, however I have full faith in Howe that he will improve us further in that regard, but patience is needed as we need new players. On the positive side, although we didn’t play great today we did hit the post twice so easily could have score 2 more, and despite being disappointed with the performance, it was still a different level to the shite we were served up pre-Howe, so it shows how far we have come in a short space of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, STM said: I rejoice that we have a manager who is critical of a 1-1 home draw, in a game where we dominated. This is why I'm not worried. It was a bloody frustrating match in which we had more than enough of the ball to put them to the sword. It's utterly shite that we even had to rely on VAR to salvage the point we did get. But we're playing the right way using a number of players most of us would've been happy to see be moved on under Bruce, let alone Howe. I think while a different philosophy, we'll see a similarity with Rafa as to his confidence in his methods rather than jumping to some ill-prepared alternative in desperation. And I also think it'll pay off in the long term when we've hopefully gotten a few more through the door in January, and/or ASM and Wilson fit (). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, NWMag said: First game this season where I’ve really been annoyed with the result & performance. Palace we should have won also but we were robbed. The fact is we don’t score enough goals, however I have full faith in Howe that he will improve us further in that regard, but patience is needed as we need new players. On the positive side, although we didn’t play great today we did hit the post twice so easily could have score 2 more, and despite being disappointed with the performance, it was still a different level to the shite we were served up pre-Howe, so it shows how far we have come in a short space of time. These are games we would have lost in the past, we’re putting points on the board when playing without our best 3 players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Needs to stop left footers on the right and right footers on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 I think we are 4 transfer windows away from getting the squad in a position that we can be happy with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Would like to see some flexibility in formation rather than having to put significantly weaker players in to keep a shape. a 3-5-2 allows us to keep the midfield three, being in Botman alongside Burn and put an extra body upfront. wouldn’t work when ASM is fit, but when he is out the 4-3-3 becomes limited in attacking options Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 I thought Eddie was meant to be shit at creating a decent defence but good setting up an attacking side. How the turn tables. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Defence looked shaky enough today tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) This is as much a tactical issue as it is a personnel one in my opinion. I'm not even slightly concerned about the results we're getting, in fact if anything, I'm actually really pleased we're so hard to beat, but I would say I'd like to see more of a plan b or a slightly different approach to the game to negate the fact we don't really have the players that are best suited to this style of play. Edited September 17, 2022 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 People booing deserve Ashley as owner and Bruce as manager . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchyTBB Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 I still fully support Howe, but, why can't he switch the wingers during the game when things are not quite working out, even for 10 or 15 mins? A basic tactical change that he never seems to try? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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