Eddie Howe

[nufc123]

39 minutes ago, Theregulars said:

What makes Murphy better than Ritchie? Which facet of his game do you think makes him a preferable option? Is it the never finishing a chance, constantly hitting the first man or being knocked off the ball easier than a wet towel? 

Murphy is not a good player, but Ritchie is finished at this level. Ritchie got rinsed quite a few times the last period he was in the side.

[1964]

35 minutes ago, KaKa said:

100% about certain players for me. 

 

We are well organised and using the ball well enough.

 

Certain players in the first 11 are just hopeless.

I think its the players outside the first 11 that are the issue.  A few injuries and we are very average

[Jaqen]

An early goal in of these home games would do us wonders, mind. 

[LionOfGosforth]

Also fair to point out that we've only lost 6 league games from 27 going back to December 19th last year and we played Liverpool and Man City 4 times in that time. Also, the prior 2 defeats before that date were also against Liverpool and Man City. 6 fucking fixtures against those teams since the middle of last December. Of those 6 defeats, I honestly think only Spurs and City (A) gave us a real going over. Just need to give even myself that perspective sometimes.

[NWMag]

First game this season where I’ve really been annoyed with the result & performance. Palace we should have won also but we were robbed. 
 

The fact is we don’t score enough goals, however I have full faith in Howe that he will improve us further in that regard, but patience is needed as we need new players. 
 

On the positive side, although we didn’t play great today we did hit the post twice so easily could have score 2 more, and despite being disappointed with the performance, it was still a different level to the shite we were served up pre-Howe, so it shows how far we have come in a short space of time.

[wormy]

8 minutes ago, STM said:

I rejoice that we have a manager who is critical of a 1-1 home draw, in a game where we dominated.

 

This is why I'm not worried.

 

It was a bloody frustrating match in which we had more than enough of the ball to put them to the sword. It's utterly shite that we even had to rely on VAR to salvage the point we did get. But we're playing the right way using a number of players most of us would've been happy to see be moved on under Bruce, let alone Howe.

 

I think while a different philosophy, we'll see a similarity with Rafa as to his confidence in his methods rather than jumping to some ill-prepared alternative in desperation. And I also think it'll pay off in the long term when we've hopefully gotten a few more through the door in January, and/or ASM and Wilson fit (). 

[nufcnick]

2 minutes ago, NWMag said:

First game this season where I’ve really been annoyed with the result & performance. Palace we should have won also but we were robbed. 
 

The fact is we don’t score enough goals, however I have full faith in Howe that he will improve us further in that regard, but patience is needed as we need new players. 
 

On the positive side, although we didn’t play great today we did hit the post twice so easily could have score 2 more, and despite being disappointed with the performance, it was still a different level to the shite we were served up pre-Howe, so it shows how far we have come in a short space of time.

These are games we would have lost in the past, we’re putting points on the board when playing without our best 3 players 

[Myleftboot]

Needs to stop left footers on the right and right footers on the left. 

[Ste]

I think we are 4 transfer windows away from getting the squad in a position that we can be happy with. 

[Colos Short and Curlies]

Would like to see some flexibility in formation rather than having to put significantly weaker players in to keep a shape.

 

a 3-5-2 allows us to keep the midfield three, being in Botman alongside Burn and put an extra body upfront.

 

wouldn’t work when ASM is fit, but when he is out the 4-3-3 becomes limited in attacking options

[Weezertron]

I thought Eddie was meant to be shit at creating a decent defence but good setting up an attacking side. How the turn tables.

[The Butcher]

Defence looked shaky enough today tbh. 

[Thumbheed]

This is as much a tactical issue as it is a personnel one in my opinion. 

 

I'm not even slightly concerned about the results we're getting, in fact if anything, I'm actually really pleased we're so hard to beat, but I would say I'd like to see more of a plan b or a slightly different approach to the game to negate the fact we don't really have the players that are best suited to this style of play. 

 

 

 

Edited September 17, 2022 by Thumbheed

[Geogaddi]

People booing deserve Ashley as owner and Bruce as manager .

[TorchyTBB]

I still fully support Howe, but, why can't he switch the wingers during the game when things are not quite working out, even for 10 or 15 mins?  A basic tactical change that he never seems to try?

[SUPERTOON]

16 minutes ago, TorchyTBB said:

I still fully support Howe, but, why can't he switch the wingers during the game when things are not quite working out, even for 10 or 15 mins?  A basic tactical change that he never seems to try?

Probably because with the quality of our wingers, it really wouldn’t make a difference.

[RobsonsWonderland]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Probably because with the quality of our wingers, it really wouldn’t make a difference.

Think it would for our centre forwards

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, RobsonsWonderland said:

Think it would for our centre forwards

How so ? We get the ball wide to them and they either cut back and lay it off, or fail to take a man on and lose the ball, or cross it out or play. Don’t think it matters what side they are on, they just aren’t good enough.

[nufcjb]

Hopes he can see how useless crossing the ball into the box is for us. 

[Barnes23]

8 minutes ago, nufcjb said:

Hopes he can see how useless crossing the ball into the box is for us. 

 

Those hit and hope crosses and speculative punts forward from midfield were definitely the most frustrating aspects of our play today. 

 

 

Edited September 17, 2022 by Barnes23

[RobsonsWonderland]

6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

How so ? We get the ball wide to them and they either cut back and lay it off, or fail to take a man on and lose the ball, or cross it out or play. Don’t think it matters what side they are on, they just aren’t good enough.

Maxi and Miggy both have to cut back to cross on their strong foot.

 

I remember Maxi crossing for Wilson from the right last season to set up goals.

 

And I'm sure Miggy must be able to get one good cross in from the left!

[PlymouthGeordie]

There's an argument to say we should've won 5 of our 7 games but for bad luck/finishing/VAR.

 

We're regularly out scoring the opposition on XG which rarely happened under Bruce or even Rafa. Eventually, that will translate in to more points on the board.

 

Just like Bruce's results were unsustainable in his first two season, so are our current results but for very different reasons.

 

As for today, and it is easy with hindsight, but I hope Howe has learned that against a lesser opponent at home, playing Botman is a must. Burn did nothing wrong but Botman's speed of thought on the ball and passing ability was sorely missed.

 

Additionally, he should've started Longstaff over Willock. Longstaff could've played in the deepest midfield position and that would have released Bruno a bit more. Also, Willock would've given us some attacking impetus from the bench because the options we did have just aren't up to it.

 

As I say, easy to say with hindsight. For me, Howe is doing a fantastic job and it is just a matter of time until we get the results our performances deserve.

 

 

Edited September 17, 2022 by PlymouthGeordie

[HaydnNUFC]

Have full faith in him, been incredibly unlucky with VAR etc but today was pretty fucking shit. Don't think it's that outlandish to say that. We'll have just as bad performances as we will good ones this season which is par for the course given this squad's depth, not Howe's fault in the slightest. But that today was wank.

[Shadow Puppets]

Aye it was a poor day at the office, not helped by the weird atmosphere all afternoon. On to the next one.

[LV]

19 minutes ago, PlymouthGeordie said:

There's an argument to say we should've won 5 of our 7 games but for bad luck/finishing/VAR.

 

We're regularly out scoring the opposition on XG which rarely happened under Bruce or even Rafa. Eventually, that will translate in to more points on the board.

 

Just like Bruce's results were unsustainable in his first two season, so are our current results but for very different reasons.

 

As for today, and it is easy with hindsight, but I hope Howe has learned that against a lesser opponent at home, playing Botman is a must. Burn did nothing wrong but Botman's speed of thought on the ball and passing ability was sorely missed.

 

Additionally, he should've started Longstaff over Willock. Longstaff could've played in the deepest midfield position and that would have released Bruno a bit more. Also, Willock would've given us some attacking impetus from the bench because the options we did have just aren't up to it.

 

As I say, easy to say with hindsight. For me, Howe is doing a fantastic job and it is just a matter of time until we get the results our performances deserve.

 

 

 

Agree with the Longstaff for Willock move to release Bruno further upfield