Nine Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) I’ve said on here before that I don’t think any manager in world football could have turned this club around within a year quite like Howe has. Of course we have to give the ownership part of the credit but everything top to bottom feels different, considering the absolute state that they inherited it’s pretty impressive work. Idiots will point to the key factor being money spent while ignoring the standard of our squad before we spent money and also that money = success just doesn’t happen that easily in football, the key factor is the ownership/management. Obviously a good slice of luck has been involved also, as we could have had a different manager altogether. I had my doubts we would resume our last season post Jan form but we’ve actually gone and bettered it which bodes well for what happens post WC. I’d have taken a top 10 finish as I saw this as a transitional season but things have moved at mad pace, we are moving towards the point of anything below top 6 being a bit of a collapse. If we do hit the ground running again after the WC then the momentum should carry us through bar any injury crisis. With all that being said, this is a long road and it will have bumps in it. IF we do qualify for the Europa league or higher then next season will be a massive task, the way we play under Howe will have this squad massively stretched due to the extra schedule. I think we would honestly benefit from one more season outside of Europe, two more summer windows will be huge in transitioning this squad into one that has the depth in quality to handle a assault on all fronts (PL, Europe and the cups). What I’m saying is I hope we don’t progress TO quickly, we can only alter transfer plans to offset that so much within the limitations. Howe should have enough credit in the bank to get through any bad patch of form caused by whatever the circumstances may be, and when we do get into Europe it will probably be the biggest acid test so far for the new regime. All in all Howe is a beast but we are only just beginning. Edited November 9, 2022 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 37 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: 15th January onwards after Watford scored their late equaliser at SJP is a good read. Just had a read, some absolute belters in there. A fair few people not just questioning him but wanting him binned off. The reaction at the time was ridiculous but football fans are an impatient bunch, though I was surprised a fanbase that suffered Ashley wasn't more patient Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Mike Ashley must be livid that This bloke has turned every single member of our playing staff(almost) in to a saleable asset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, HaydnNUFC said: Gallowgate End on here? That was/is Burnsie. Ahh my old friend Burnsie Such an absolute wrongun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, The Prophet said: I was a fan of Howe before his appointment, what he achieved at Bournemouth was incredible. That said, his first year in charge is way beyond any form of expectation. I felt he could be the man to keep us up and transition us into a mid-table team, but he's emphatically ripped up that script. I love the bloke and genuinely believe he could be the one to end the trophy drought. WILL be the one to end the trophy drought. Onwards and upwards. For those that haven’t, please watch Minus 17 on YouTube. It’ll tell you all you need to know about the mentality, and ability of our magnificent gaffa. He’s also not his own finished article by his own high standards, he’ll grow and develope with the club. Happy daze indeed. Edited November 9, 2022 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catlover24 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Nobody said: Only watched about 20 minutes of the High Performance podcast, would absolutely love for them to do one with Bruce just to take the piss out of him and let us compare the answers Excuse me this is 'High Performance' not High Cholesterol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 8 hours ago, The Prophet said: I was a fan of Howe before his appointment, what he achieved at Bournemouth was incredible. That said, his first year in charge is way beyond any form of expectation. I felt he could be the man to keep us up and transition us into a mid-table team, but he's emphatically ripped up that script. I love the bloke and genuinely believe he could be the one to end the trophy drought. He wasn't top of my list, but in the end I was impressed by the way he had clearly convinced the club that he had the right ideas and motivation to take us forward, and I was happy with his appointment. I didn't know what had happened at Bournemouth (and still don't) and I wondered how that and his lay-off had affected him. It turns out that he's come back stronger, with renewed energy, ideas and conviction. He's turned a setback into a springboard. Analogies can be dangerous, but I can't help but think back to the Clough / Notts Forest episode. He'd had success at Derby, but failed at Leeds and got nowhere with Brighton. Then he took on an ordinary bunch of players at Forest and it all took off. What I can remember from that season when they won the league in their first season after promotion (Imagine that happening now) was that everyone was initially seeing it as the sort of temporary boost that a promoted club often gets. A commentator (I think it was David Coleman) then said after Forest had beaten Man U 4-0 at Old Trafford, 'If you think the Forest bubble is going to burst, forget it'. I've been expecting us to hit some kind of mid-table brick wall, but it hasn't happened and I no longer expect it to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 From the “High Performance” podcast: Asked to outline his guiding principles in management, his answer included the following, evidenced by the overwhelming majority of the current squad: "The best way for the team to do really well is for the individual to excel. If I can try and improve those 25 players and invest in them, then the team and the club will never look back." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Disco said: The start of the thread will be an absolute car crash. Can’t wait to revisit it when timing best suits. I'll save you some time, only read Pilko's posts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Disco said: That I’m actually watching this corporate drivel with Jake Humpo is the biggest endorsement I could ever give the bloke tbh. Wonder that bellend who has fascinated with him years before he arrived is up to now? I listened to it and I found it incredibly cringey. I know these things often are and dossers like me are not their target audience. But for all that Humphrey was always fair about us and supportive of the fans under Ashley. He is a bit awful, IMO. The other bloke that sounds like a character from Two Pints of Lager, was not much better. All felt a bit Ant Middleton. “ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IF YOU JUST PUT YOUR MIND TO IT.” I did enjoy listening to Edward, for the most part. Edited November 9, 2022 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 9 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said: Gallowgate End on here? That was/is Burnsie. how many times? no it wasn’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 28 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: I listened to it and I found it incredibly cringey. I know these things often are and dossers like me are not their target audience. But for all that Humphrey was always fair about us and supportive of the fans under Ashley. He is a bit awful, IMO. The other bloke that sounds like a character from Two Pints of Lager, was not much better. All felt a bit Ant Middleton. “ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IF YOU JUST PUT YOUR MIND TO IT.” I did enjoy listening to Edward, for the most part. I know what you mean, but it's about improving performance and overcoming stuff. A bit pointless unless you actually believe it's possible. Have to just ride out the cringe a little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I know what you mean, but it's about improving performance and overcoming stuff. A bit pointless unless you actually believe it's possible. Have to just ride out the cringe a little. I get that. I do understand what some of these kind of things are getting at. Self-confidence or self-help, performance, positive mentality. They are all a bit like that and I can accept it up to a point that they are going to be a bit cheesy. I just found the two hosts on this really grating, a bit smug and awful to listen to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 8 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: I'll save you some time, only read Pilko's posts But at least Pilko did a mea culpa. He's a sound poster, and appeared to lose the plot a little on this topic, like we all do on occasion. A few still haven't admitted how fucking awful their takes were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Can I get some page references for some anti-Howe takes? Trying to remember what my take was, think I was fairly supportive once Emery dropped out but I think most in the board were, weren’t they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, gbandit said: Can I get some page references for some anti-Howe takes? Trying to remember what my take was, think I was fairly supportive once Emery dropped out but I think most in the board were, weren’t they? Most were. It was just a few very loud voices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 On 22/01/2022 at 00:06, midds said: Howe has inherited an utter shitshow but it's his job to try and fix it. I think everyone hopes he can and he certainly talks a good game but it's got to translate into results at some point. He was appointed to fix the problems, he either does or he doesn't. He's under no illusions and neither are the fans, another few shit results and he'll be struggling to hang on imo, which would be a real shame as I think he's a nice bloke with many qualities. I don't want him out and I want him to turn it around but something's got to happen soon. Narrator - it did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: But at least Pilko did a mea culpa. He's a sound poster, and appeared to lose the plot a little on this topic, like we all do on occasion. A few still haven't admitted how fucking awful their takes were. I can't remember the poster but after 2 or 3 weeks he wanted Howe gone. I told him to "give your head a shake" and he went into a right strop. Informing me that we had dropped a huge bollock in appointing Eddie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, gbandit said: Can I get some page references for some anti-Howe takes? Trying to remember what my take was, think I was fairly supportive once Emery dropped out but I think most in the board were, weren’t they? Try page 80. Gerrard over Howe is a particular highlight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, Rod said: I can't remember the poster but after 2 or 3 weeks he wanted Howe gone. I told him to "give your head a shake" and he went into a right strop. Informing me that we had dropped a huge bollock in appointing Eddie. Plenty of us had encounters like that. Some of the takes on here were just awful. But fuck it, we've been on a great run for awhile. All is forgiven, as long as they don't do the same whit when we hit a bad patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 There was some absolute bollocks being floated about Howe in December and January. I remember a lot of people acting like utter minges when Bruno wasn’t starting every game. That thread was a fucking nightmare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: But at least Pilko did a mea culpa. He's a sound poster, and appeared to lose the plot a little on this topic, like we all do on occasion. A few still haven't admitted how fucking awful their takes were. Ah I know Pilko's sound as owt like, it's not a personal slight. It's just his posts that stick in my mind, particularly the 'P.E teacher with a LinkedIn account' one, or whatever it was. Tbf Howe didn't give much room for criticism imo, the improvement was immediate with results not that far behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 22 hours ago, LiquidAK said: That podcast was fantastic. Could listen to that man speak about his methods and his philosophy all day. We really hit the jackpot with him I'd been earlies at work. Came home, had a bite to eat, cup of tea, put that on and after about 45 mins drifted off onto the most blissfully conteted sleep I've had in years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 28 minutes ago, christ said: There was some absolute bollocks being floated about Howe in December and January. I remember a lot of people acting like utter minges when Bruno wasn’t starting every game. That thread was a fucking nightmare. Aftermath of the FA Cup game was utter tosh in particular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I notice we haven't heard from "Yelevats" lately, another big bonus of Eddie's success. Some of his posts back then, what a WUM twat. At least the majority who were being needlessly negative, their posts came from a position of being passionate fans who want the club to succeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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