Mattoon Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Gini is a classy player but even Liverpool supporters noticed how he was anonymous some games, you'd forget he was there and he'd pop up and do something silky and then vanish again. He also struggled in away matches for some reason. I'd take him back under Howe 100% though, still he's and shoulders above what we have currently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 minute ago, triggs said: Well the point stands, he was dropped for 2 important games at the end of the season because he was offering so little as a Dutch international in a terrible side Oh well, I'd still be delighted if we signed him based on the simple fact he's on a different level to any of the shite we currently have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Utter disgrace? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) If you would rather start Joelinton in CM than Wijnaldum you need urgent reeducation gulag Edited December 27, 2021 by Billy Pilgrim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 3 hours ago, ManDoon said: It’s not even close to being mugged he’s an absolutely quality player, still playing at the highest level with no serious signs of decline. Try and find any club ever being remotely close to paying that kind of fee for a full back at his age. You won't find it. For a reason. Atletico may value him higher, but he's not worth more than someone is willing to pay, and the most recent noises was the ~15m mentioned by Man Utd. I just find it baffling how people can say 25m is "nothing" and "great value" when it clearly isn't, despite him being a great player. Only if we stay up that fee can be justified imo, but it's still more than what any other club would ever pay. But....as I said, as long as it does not limit whom else we can bring in I really don't care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 It really isn’t as simple as that. We know Gini is capable of having an impact on games, if the Gini that scored 12 goals In. Half a season turns up then great. If the one that went missing turns up then that’s a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Conjo said: Try and find any club ever being remotely close to paying that kind of fee for a full back at his age. You won't find it. For a reason. Atletico may value him higher, but he's not worth more than someone is willing to pay, and the most recent noises was the ~15m mentioned by Man Utd. I just find it baffling how people can say 25m is "nothing" and "great value" when it clearly isn't, despite him being a great player. Only if we stay up that fee can be justified imo, but it's still more than what any other club would ever pay. But....as I said, as long as it does not limit whom else we can bring in I really don't care. Get used to it. We're going to be paying over the odds for some while yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Conjo said: Try and find any club ever being remotely close to paying that kind of fee for a full back at his age. You won't find it. For a reason. Atletico may value him higher, but he's not worth more than someone is willing to pay, and the most recent noises was the ~15m mentioned by Man Utd. I just find it baffling how people can say 25m is "nothing" and "great value" when it clearly isn't, despite him being a great player. Only if we stay up that fee can be justified imo, but it's still more than what any other club would ever pay. But....as I said, as long as it does not limit whom else we can bring in I really don't care. These are supposedly minted man , it’s like a tenner to them , stop worrying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 It’s also only actually like what, 5m? 7.5m? of our budget being used. It’s not like they’re going to be like wow that 25m was a lot of work ??? let’s take a breather. And we don’t sign anyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Ashley has properly scarred us when we are being linked with Trippier and people are panicking over the fee Those stingy days are behind us, stop fretting man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I really would like them to have some agreements in place for signings to be made and sealed on the 1st Jan. But fully aware that football doesn't work like that and isn't that simple. Anxious to see some new blood get into the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 minute ago, dcmk said: I really would like them to have some agreements in place for signings to be made and sealed on the 1st Jan. But fully aware that football doesn't work like that and isn't that simple. Anxious to see some new blood get into the team. I’m sure they will be pressing to get them done as early as possible. Would be great to have a couple in in time for the Cambridge game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Just now, dcmk said: I really would like them to have some agreements in place for signings to be made and sealed on the 1st Jan. But fully aware that football doesn't work like that and isn't that simple. Anxious to see some new blood get into the team. Aye. That's a very big factor in the price we pay. We might get Trippier for 15M if we're prepared to wait until they acknowledge his true value of 10M, but if we want him in on 1st Jan we need to pay at least 25. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Billy Pilgrim said: If you would rather start Joelinton in CM than Wijnaldum you need urgent reeducation gulag Completely depends on who else is there like. I would 100% start Joelinton in this side as we're soft as shite in the middle (in reality they would both start) Edited December 27, 2021 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) If we have to pay a premium because of desperation or who our owners are then so fucking be it. We are in a virtual crisis right now so paying 5-10m more for a player and we end up staying up is worth it. If we don't stay up then it's a calculated risk that needed to happen. Edited December 27, 2021 by Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 If Joelinton really did turn out to be an adept CDM or box-to-boxer it would be as close to the 'new signing' cliché as you can get. Keep up his form, plus Berge plus Wijnaldum, plus Trippier and a new CB... the whole team has an entirely different complexion with its most glaring deficiencies addressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Big clubs pay random prices for players all the time - pricing is relative to the need of the club/buyer. Despite what Man United or Transfrmrkt say. It's literally that simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Kanji said: Big clubs pay random prices for players all the time - pricing is relative to the need of the club/buyer. Despite what Man United or Transfrmrkt say. It's literally that simple. Exactly this. £25m for Trippier is absolutely nothing for what we're getting. He ticks every box that we need to stay up. It would be insane to miss out trying to low ball them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 We're the richest club in the world, who gives a fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Willow said: We're the richest club in the world, who gives a fuck It’s nevertheless important to get the right players and try not to overpay for them. On both counts however I don’t see how you could really go far wrong with Trippier at 25m. A top quality player in a position where we are desperate for an immediate improvement, capable of performing at a high level for a few years yet at a price that won’t threaten any other future plans too much. We need a few deals for players like this to pull us out of the mud short term to ensure we can build for long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: It’s nevertheless important to get the right players and try not to overpay for them. On both counts however I don’t see how you could really go far wrong with Trippier at 25m. A top quality player in a position where we are desperate for an immediate improvement, capable of performing at a high level for a few years yet at a price that won’t threaten any other future plans too much. We need a few deals for players like this to pull us out of the mud short term to ensure we can build for long term. We are in a poor bargaining position, relegation place, desperate for some quality players and everyone knows we have loads of money. We will end up over-paying I think out of necessity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Wijnaldum would easily be the best player here if he came. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 He’s good but I wouldn’t want him as our only midfield signing. Wouldn’t add the steel or protection that we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: He’s good but I wouldn’t want him as our only midfield signing. Wouldn’t add the steel or protection that we need. But he does retain possession, shields the ball really well and his athleticism alone would be a huge asset to us in possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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