Now That's What I Call Transfer Rumours! 7

[RobsonsWonderland]

As the old saying goes... buy cheap, buy twice.

I personally believe we could have went out and bought the likes of Dennis, Carlos, Sarr and other similar players this window but long term they would all need to be replaced again for where we want to be the following seasons.

 

Yeah they would strengthen this years squad but if you can hold your nerve and snap up the next level player before the window slams shut you will actually end up saving money long term.

 

I'm still pressing the refresh button in hope every 10 mins mind!

[nufcjmc]

I think you can tell from Howe's comments that he would love to have done more business early but has to admit the market and constraints (argue all you want if these constraints are the market or us and how we an operating) that the window has been at least frustrating. 

 

If we were going to spend in Jan I would be mad if we miss out on someone now for 5/10% more money offered just to risk spending again in a much harder market rather go hard now and pass Jan by. 

 

I could be satisfied with 1 more signing depending on the deal and the calibre of the player but I do feel we need 2 or 3 more additions. We could get 3 players in and I could be very underwhelmed due to how long they have spent just to get in player X, Y , Z. I think the fact I dont know how I will feel because I don't have all the facts and the window remains open I am prepared to hold off being opening critical until the window closes and we see where we are. 

[bowlingcrofty]

CHO on loan with an option to buy next summer would be a decent deal.

[Pilko]

I think as the window nears to a close we'll be more likely to either pay that extra £5-£10m to get a priority target over the line, or we'll be able to get a loan deal as someone becomes available. 

 

There's no way we don't do anything at all IMO, would be such a miss if we didn't strengthen the front end of the pitch.

[Lush Vlad]

Is there actually any rumours flying about from decent sources?  Or has this thread just been reduced to people listing players from Chelsea that we should go for  

[nufcjmc]

1 minute ago, Pilko said:

I think as the window nears to a close we'll be more likely to either pay that extra £5-£10m to get a priority target over the line, or we'll be able to get a loan deal as someone becomes available. 

 

There's no way we don't do anything at all IMO, would be such a miss if we didn't strengthen the front end of the pitch.

 

If any of those bids we have made are true  I wonder how many remain on the table I wonder if any of the selling clubs will be more likely to do business for lack of alternative offers. 

[elbee909]

It's bonkers but I'd go for Antony. Which I know is ridiculous before anyone says so.

[sushimonster85]

1 minute ago, elbee909 said:

It's bonkers but I'd go for Antony.

 

That is ridicu....

 

2 minutes ago, elbee909 said:

Which I know is ridiculous before anyone says so.

 

Nevermind. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

27 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

How or why is Chilwell in the development squad?

Get some minutes to get fit?

[elbee909]

Anything to save him the ignominy of Man Utd. Be doing him a favour!

[sushimonster85]

I said this to a mate last night, Chilwell could be one to watch next Summer. Even when he is back fully fit I imagine Tuchel is going to go with Cucurella over him. Start of the Summer had us looking at more progressive LBs, before sticking with Targett. Wouldn't be shocked if Chilwell is available next Summer, and if he is (assuming we have had another good year and are then looking towards European qualification in 23/24) we should be going in for him.  

[Coffee_Johnny]

Kante injured? Could scupper Gallagher move to anywhere). 

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2022/08/15/everton-newcastle-could-miss-out-on-50m-target-after-major-chelsea-incident/

 

[Dr Jinx]

Our new CEO is due to start the role in a few days, before end of week in any case. I wonder if that’s a reason for delay? Perhaps just in time to ink some deals to inflate the transfer budget?

[Slim]

Doubt

[SUPERTOON]

37 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

Our new CEO is due to start the role in a few days, before end of week in any case. I wonder if that’s a reason for delay? Perhaps just in time to ink some deals to inflate the transfer budget?

If we where on the verge of inking new commercial deals we could do that without waiting for him surely ?

[Beth]

If we'd offered the current market value for Maddison (£60m) with the bulk of it up front then I'm sure Leicester would have sold him to us by now. However we tried to low-ball them and they've quite rightly told us to fuck off.

[Tiresias]

We don't have the bulk of £60m up front to spend due to ffp that's why we are offering low starting bids and spreading costs

 

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by Tiresias

[Jackie Broon]

1 hour ago, Dr Jinx said:

Our new CEO is due to start the role in a few days, before end of week in any case. I wonder if that’s a reason for delay? Perhaps just in time to ink some deals to inflate the transfer budget?

 

Commercial deals of the size that could alter our budget, and that would probably be related party deals, will need PL sign-off so it's not just a case of our CEO signing-off on them.

 

Our budget this season isn't really that limited in terms of FFP, according to that Swiss Ramble twitter thread, including the cost of the transfers we've already made we could afford to spend another £300m on transfers without being in danger of failing FFP this season.

 

The issue would come in two years if we don't increase our revenue. If our revenue doesn't increase over the next two years by his calculations we could spend only another £100m in transfers over that time before FFP becomes an issue. That increase in revenue isn't an issue for right now, provided that it does increase over the next two years, which it clearly will.

 

Although we clearly don't have an unlimited budget we do still have plenty of ability to spend without FFP being an issue, I think a lot of the talk of FFP being an issue is still the club trying to improve it's bargaining position which other clubs who think we have an unlimited budget.

 

 

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by Jackie Broon

[Beth]

6 minutes ago, Tiresias said:

We don't have the bulk of £60m up front to spend due to ffp that's why we are offering low starting bids and spreading costs

 

 

 

Yes I understand that, even if we had offered £60m for him theres no way they were going to accept £12-15m a year spread over 4/5 years.

 

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by Beth

[kingxlnc]

Out of everyone who lefts clubs and been transferred that we were linked to, are there any that we think omg that’s a huge miss, if only we had gotten them in instead of x club?

 

I can’t think of many, especially ones where they went somewhere else INSTEAD of us. Ekitike is the only snub we’ve really had, and it’s just potential really no idea how good he is. 
 

The ones we all really wanted, Paqueta, Diaby, Maddison, Harrison, Isak, Osimhen, none of these kind of names have actually gone anywhere. And so I do believe NUFC have a long term approach to signing the specific people they have earmarked, and are prepared to wait accordingly. 
 

I think we are frustrated because it’s a no brainer where we lack depth and anyone decent would help but I think they have a plan of action on how to jump to 4th using certain profile of players, and would rather not fill out the squad with ones which do not fit and take up resources. 
 

If you said take Cornet or Dennis now vs Isak or Osimhen in January or next summer it’s a no brainer, get someone on loan and wait. 
 

The one seemingly obvious frustration is that of Paqueta as he is someone potentially world class, within our budget and would definitely come to us, and also an area we need. So it makes too much sense and the fear is that he has plenty of interest elsewhere.

 

the 80/20 rule, if only Paqueta was signed that would satisfy most. 

[sushimonster85]

6 minutes ago, Beth said:

Yes I understand that, even if we had offered £60m for him theres no way they were going to accept £12-15m a year spread over 4/5 years.

 

 

 

 

Why not? That's how most transfers are structured. 

[Jackie Broon]

7 minutes ago, Tiresias said:

We don't have the bulk of £60m up front to spend due to ffp that's why we are offering low starting bids and spreading costs

 

 

 

 

For FFP the costs are spread by amortisation anyway. A £60m transfer fee is a £12m per season amortisation cost, including wages as say £150k per week it's an annual FFP accounting cost of roughly £20m.

 

[TRC]

1 minute ago, kingxlnc said:

Out of everyone who lefts clubs and been transferred that we were linked to, are there any that we think omg that’s a huge miss, if only we had gotten them in instead of x club?

 

I can’t think of many, especially ones where they went somewhere else INSTEAD of us. Ekitike is the only snub we’ve really had, and it’s just potential really no idea how good he is. 
 

The ones we all really wanted, Paqueta, Diaby, Maddison, Harrison, Isak, Osimhen, none of these kind of names have actually gone anywhere. And so I do believe NUFC have a long term approach to signing the specific people they have earmarked, and are prepared to wait accordingly. 
 

I think we are frustrated because it’s a no brainer where we lack depth and anyone decent would help but I think they have a plan of action on how to jump to 4th using certain profile of players, and would rather not fill out the squad with ones which do not fit and take up resources. 
 

If you said take Cornet or Dennis now vs Isak or Osimhen in January or next summer it’s a no brainer, get someone on loan and wait. 
 

The one seemingly obvious frustration is that of Paqueta as he is someone potentially world class, within our budget and would definitely come to us, and also an area we need. So it makes too much sense and the fear is that he has plenty of interest elsewhere.

 

the 80/20 rule, if only Paqueta was signed that would satisfy most. 

If we don't get anyone in, then I think Mara was a miss. Young striker/winger for 10m with a lot of upside.

 

 

[TRC]

1 minute ago, sushimonster85 said:

 

Why not? That's how most transfers are structured. 

This is the thing, people were outraged when Ashley wouldnt spread the costs, because most clubs do. Now people are booting off over us doing it. Everyone does it this way, Leicester still owe us for Perez for example.

[HaydnNUFC]

How many times regarding Paqueta man  I have not seen a single reliable source who covers us or transfers in general since the start of July (e.g Ornstein) say that we're in for Paqueta. If he was within our budget, wanted to come here and is someone Howe wants then surely he would've been signed by now. People need to move on. We won't sign him* and we're very very likely to not even be in for him and just because he's danced with Bruno on the pitch at Lyon a few times doesn't change that.

 

*Wouldn't be unhappy if we did, mind.

 

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by HaydnNUFC