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9 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

 

Are any of their new signings still unregistered?

 

Shouldve read the article first - La Liga kicks off in 10 days time  :lol::lol::lol:

 

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At the time of publication, however, while Lewandowski’s signing has been announced, his La Liga registration is still to be formalised. This is the case for every Barcelona signing this summer, as well as Dembele, who counts as a new signing as he signed fresh terms after his previous deal had expired.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Away Toon said:

So the BBC has us finishing 9th and the Guardian 7th. In the article in the Guardian this caught my eye.

 

If Netflix did a Newcastle doc …

Planet Toon would be fronted by Sir David Attenborough and detail life on a particularly peculiar parallel universe. The soundtrack would feature music by the manager’s favourite band, A-ha, and Saint-Maximin and Guimarães would compete for the most airtime. A specially extended episode could centre on the squad’s mid-winter break to Jeddah and refuse to gloss over Jonjo Shelvey’s deportation following an unfortunate breach of etiquette while in the company of assorted Saudi Arabian royals.

 

Anybody know what the Shelvey bit is about?


Think they are trying to make a joke about an event that hasn’t happened yet 

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Disaster for Everton to be honest. They’ve lost Richarlison and with DCL out for months I can’t see them scoring many at all. Gordon will grab a few but apart from that they’re pretty fucked. Sad times for Frankie de Tory, at least he has Truss coming in from September to give him a morale boost 

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17 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Disaster for Everton to be honest. They’ve lost Richarlison and with DCL out for months I can’t see them scoring many at all. Gordon will grab a few but apart from that they’re pretty fucked. Sad times for Frankie de Tory, at least he has Truss coming in from September to give him a morale boost 

 

Guess it's reasonable to expect him to improve this season, but I wouldn't count on Gordon providing season saving numbers considering he only managed 4 goals in 40 games last season.

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I started typing this in the NUFC kits thread, then maybe thought it could be football trivia and so it's here instead. 

 

A few weeks ago I stumbled upon something I found to be quite interesting as an aficionado of both heraldry and club badges. We’ve all been there, late at night, face down deep in a Wikipedia wormhole, one thing leads to another and before you know it you’re downloading megabytes of illicitly-sourced images that are difficult to explain in the cold light of day. As a single man with fibre optic broadband, my story is no different, so here is what I found after downloading issue 229 of The Heraldry Society’s publication – The Coat of Arms. Please don’t judge me.

 

In the 1970s, the FA and Football League were concerned by the legalities of clubs (and other related businesses) selling merchandise that had club crests on them because clubs often used badges that were either based on city/town/region coats of arms or in fact were the coats of arms themselves and so they weren’t owned by the clubs but rather the city council, etc. The Football League got in touch with the College of Arms (the fine folk who administer coats of arms) for some advice and if a solution could be found regarding ownership. The FA and College weren’t too keen on granting coats of arms to the clubs themselves for the logical but rather cold reason that coats of arms are meant to be prestigious, you don’t grant them to just anyone, and the nature of football means a Division One club (at that time) could easily suffer misfortune and then spiral down the leagues or even out of business, and that isn’t all too prestigious.

 

So the solution was for the College to grant the Football League 92 badges (a lesser version of a coat of arms), one for each member club, and then the Football League itself would hand those out to the clubs. The very important distinction here is that it would be the Football League, not the clubs, who would legally own the badges. The Football League got in touch with the clubs and it was the intention that the process would begin with the Division One teams, then Division Two and so on, with each club responding with an idea of what they would like. If the club had nothing in mind then the College would come up with something – again, this is a key, important legal element. Only 25 clubs responded and so the plan to prioritise by division was abandoned and clubs were dealt with as they responded.

 

Rodney Dennys himself was tasked with designing the badges, he was the man who was Herald at the College, which is a very senior and historical position and I think it reflects how seriously this was taken. As a result of only 25 clubs across the four divisions replying to the request, there is quite a wide range of teams. If you’ve even read this far (and thank you for doing so), you’re probably asking why you should still pretend to care, well, Newcastle United were one of the 25. (Spoiler!) 

 

I mentioned earlier that if a club had no real preference or existing idea as to what their badge should be then it would be up to Mr Dennys to get creative, although still subject to Football League and club final approval. Of course, although quite surprisingly, Newcastle United did not have a preference and so the badge created by Rodney Dennys at the College of Arms to be granted to the Football League for Newcastle United was entirely an original creation of Rodney Dennys himself. By going back a wee bit further to the legal element, this badge remained and actually remains the legal property of the Football League and not the club, even if the club drew the badge itself and simply passed it to the College to be given the once-over (which it didn’t), it still belongs to the Football League.

 

So what? I hear none of you say. Well, way back in the dark days of the Ashley era, some wonderful people created the Magpie Shirt, which contained a magpie image on one side of the chest and the castle shield from the city’s coat of arms on the other but later editions (the one I have as I sadly missed out on the original) only feature the shield in the centre because our fine club got involved and prevented the use of the magpie – citing trademark and other legal issues. This is what I found quite interesting. While I don’t (or can’t because I’m not a legal expert) dispute where the club is/was coming from, I thought it was interesting that the use of the magpie in such a way was never really an idea of the club but even if it was then the ownership is with the Football League, not Newcastle United. Maybe it was just another example in a long line of examples of our previous owner being a bit of a dick? Who knows and perhaps we shall never know.

 

As a special bonus, a thank you for reading, here are the 25 badges that were granted between 1975 and 1979 to the clubs that cared. Some are still kind of in use to this very day, some never saw the light of day but no other clubs ever signed up. Sadly, this process officially ended in 1993, despite appearing to be on hold, when Rodney Dennys passed away, the Football League had paid for all 92 clubs to have a badge but the rest of the money was returned on Dennys’ passing.

 

See how many of these you can guess, some are straightforward but there are some obscure ones to mix it up.

 

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(a) Blackburn Rovers; (b) Chelsea; (c) Manchester United; (d) Hull City; (e) West Bromwich Albion; (f) Leicester City; (g) Bury; (h) Birmingham City; (i) Exeter City; (j) Cardiff City; (k) Huddersfield United; (l) Lincoln City

 

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(a) Carlisle United; (b) Manchester City; (c) Liverpool; (d) Stockport County; (e) Blackpool; (f) Doncaster Rovers; (g) Newcastle United; (h) Sheffield United; (i) Millwall; (j) Leyton Orient; (k) Oldham Athletic; (l) Northampton Town

 

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Spoiler

Aldershot

 

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1 hour ago, xLiaaamx said:

I mean they have Rondon, is he not still revered here? 

 

Surely you can tell the difference between him being great for us 4 years ago and what he's like now

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11 minutes ago, joeyt said:

Jake Humphrey dropped from BT's main Saturday coverage

 

Always felt he tried a bit too hard with our fans

He hasn’t been. He requested to be on less. See his replies.

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4 hours ago, joeyt said:

Jake Humphrey dropped from BT's main Saturday coverage

 

Always felt he tried a bit too hard with our fans

 

Why has he been dropped? For making Jenas feel like being in a goldfish bowel? 

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5 hours ago, joeyt said:

Jake Humphrey dropped from BT's main Saturday coverage

 

Always felt he tried a bit too hard with our fans


What?? 
 

The fella was one of the only presenters who seemed to get it. And didn’t let Rio get away with his bullshit 

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