Paully Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) https://theathletic.com/3549446/2022/09/02/newcastle-united-transfers/ "while loan bids for Christian Pulisic and Conor Gallagher of Chelsea and Arsenal’s Ainsley Maitland-Niles in part failed because the club are now seen as upwardly mobile and potential threats to the established order." Edited September 2, 2022 by Paully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Paully said: https://theathletic.com/3549446/2022/09/02/newcastle-united-transfers/ "while loan bids for Christian Pulisic and Conor Gallagher of Chelsea and Arsenal’s Ainsley Maitland-Niles in part failed because the club are now seen as upwardly mobile and potential threats to the established order." Makes sense. Why help out the competition? We are now top six competitors and will take points of the best teams. More than anyone else, hope we piss on Chelsea’s aspirations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Upwardly mobile, threat, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Looking forward to the inevitable few wins we'll pick up against that reprehensible set of clubs this season. I gave the window an 8. I'm delighted with each of the 4 signings as they all hugely improve the first team. But right wing in particular I'm not comfortable with - Almiron and Fraser would be fine as squad options but don't think either is good enough to be first choice. There was a long time between the Botman and Isak signings, I really hope this stands us in good stead in future windows and we can act quickly to bring a RW and CM in. Hopefully we've planted the seed with a few clubs / players now (a la Botman) so the next window isn't such a grind in that respect. All good though, saw someone say in another thread there are only 13 games between now and January window and this is definitely a good enough squad to push on with until then. Just need some luck with injuries so we can see our best side! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 36 minutes ago, Paully said: https://theathletic.com/3549446/2022/09/02/newcastle-united-transfers/ "while loan bids for Christian Pulisic and Conor Gallagher of Chelsea and Arsenal’s Ainsley Maitland-Niles in part failed because the club are now seen as upwardly mobile and potential threats to the established order." We need to develop better relatiionships with the likes of Real Madrid, Juventus, Atletico etc. That loan market needs to be used Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) On reflection I’ll change my rating from 6.5 to a 7/10, but my initial misgivings still stand and I reiterate that we now need to stop thinking - oh because we have spent money, signed players and are looking at quality players where as under Ashley we didn’t - that we should just be happy clappers. That would be like being happy with not going down this season because we’ve went down twice under Ashley. We are a totally different club now, with huge ambition, huge wealth and now need to raise our own expectations in line with that, within reason of course. My main disappointment is that we’ve strengthened an area we were strong in (defence) which is fine of course and although we’ve signed Isak, we knew from day one Wilson won’t play every game so we always needed another striker, we needed that last season even after signing Wood. We have failed to strengthen the midfield, however and rely on Bruno, ASAM and Joelinton being fit and getting the very best out of Frazer and Almiron for example who don’t produce many goals or assists. It’s frightening to think if we get key injuries to those players, our attacking options are Frazer, Almiron and the likes of Murphy and Wood. We could have used the loan market, which we haven’t and although Pope is an upgrade on Dubravka, if he gets injured, we are left with Darlow. I also feel given how crazy the season has been and will be and given our momentum, say giving Leicester 60m for Maddison or 30m + for Pedro on top of what we’ve spent, would have given us a greater chance of progressing the ‘project’ quicker and in with a chance of the top 6th and European football next season, which will in time, be vital if we are to retain the likes of Bruno. Hopefully we can address these issues in January while being in a strong position in the table still, time will tell… I do have 100% faith and trust in the club, however, and that eventually, we will get it all right or near enough and that it’s a slow process and we have come a long long way in under a year and so I should, and we all should, be very very happy, which I am, especially as I have the utmost confidence in Howe and his staff that we will compete even with a weakened team, as we showed against LFC. Edited September 2, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 8 feels a bit harsh, 9 feels a nudge generous. Went 8 given Ekitike fuck arounds etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 It's all relative I suppose - if you say how is it versus Ashley windows and it's a 10 all day. Not just the money spent but the profile of the signings. But I think a lot of us (myself included) are suddenly looking upwards and seeing the vulnerabilities of the sides above us. There is a big opportunity there, with this manager, which colours judgements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 8 on 10 use the sausage as a breaker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 It was a great window but also a reminder of how much we’re going to benefit from improvements behind the scenes, mainly to the academy and to our scouting department(s). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 So, according to The Athletic's piece this morning: Legitimate links Ekitike Pedro Tielemans Luiz Dendoncker Pulisic Gallagher Broja Werner Hudson-Odoi Maitland-Niles Ashby Calvert-Lewin Toney Diaby Lodi Kepa Leno Sanchez Ake Kelly Aguerd Harrison Maddison Gordon Barnes Sesko Pepe Ramos Chukwuemeka Cornet Breretin Diaz Angelo Gabriel Paqueta (briefly near the end) Terrier Agent noise/not considered Coutinho Draxler Pelligrini Lingard Carlos Phillips Raphinha Genuine interest in our players Anderson Wood ASM Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Paully said: https://theathletic.com/3549446/2022/09/02/newcastle-united-transfers/ "while loan bids for Christian Pulisic and Conor Gallagher of Chelsea and Arsenal’s Ainsley Maitland-Niles in part failed because the club are now seen as upwardly mobile and potential threats to the established order." We saw this with Man U in the last window when they put a prohibitive tax on signing Lingard because they were hoping we would get relegated. I agree with TCD, we should have learned from this and tried to loan from European clubs who don't have an axe to grind. But that's just my opinion, obviously Eddie wanted to work with known quantities, especially on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 In terms of the players acquired probably a 7/10, in terms of what we acheived vs what was acheivable. It's difficult to assess the clubs performance because there is a wealth of information we do not know. I'm sure many were critical or anxious about failing to sign Botman last January and that's turned out ok. Overall though I feel like this window and the way we have started the season probably shows prospective players that we are very much a club worth joining and progressing with. That's invaluable going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peder75 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 For me this window was 9/10 and only a CM away from a 10. I don't expect any push for Europe this season. Our squad is too thin for that. This and the last window was about building a great starting 11. One that can fight for Europe, and I think that's what we have done. We don't have any real depth, and are very vulnerable at the moment. So may it be, but that's something we can start to address in the next window or two. Also want to bring up the other important acquisitions we have done in Dan Asworth (between windows) and Darren Eals who I believe are very important pieces in the puzzle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/vertragslosespieler Free agents - worth trying for 1 year contracts to fill gaps in squad: CB - Jason Denayer CB - Dan Axel-Zagadou RB - Dijibril Sidibe RB - Santiago Arias AM - Ross Barkley RW - Hatem Ben Arfa (!!!) CM - Mehdi Abied CM - Alan Dzagoev CM - Fabian Delph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Hatem is the furthest thing from a Howe player but we’d all still love it anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Hatem would make the transfer window a 10/10 for me haha Not a bad sub option off the bench, surely? Come home sweet prince Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Mehdi Abeid is still knocking around? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Solid and much improved (obviously) 7/10 for this window. Very happy with quality of acquisitions and personnel but feel we are light in overall squad depth putting us at slight risk. Just a wee bit worried that failure to progress this season (if it happens) may lead to challenges around keeping Wilson, Bruno ASM for instance come next season, and our inability to strengthen the squad depth may be a factor in progression and an issue that bites us if injuries hit us in particular. All in all happy but worrying. Och I’m just a miserable old git Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 7/10 for me, as I always felt we needed a central midfielder and a winger to have a truly "complete" window, which would've been a 10/10. Still a good score, though, and boosted due to the quality of Isak as the striking option versus Ekitike. As others have said, there are only 13 games until the next window opens and a fair few of our targets will be a few more months closer to contract expiry at that stage. I dare say some teams that felt our offers were "derisory" might have different ideas when they're staring down the barrel of 18 months left on a deal instead of 24. If we keep having windows like this, we'll be right up there in no time at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, George Bailey said: Solid and much improved (obviously) 7/10 for this window. Very happy with quality of acquisitions and personnel but feel we are light in overall squad depth putting us at slight risk. Just a wee bit worried that failure to progress this season (if it happens) may lead to challenges around keeping Wilson, Bruno ASM for instance come next season, and our inability to strengthen the squad depth may be a factor in progression and an issue that bites us if injuries hit us in particular. All in all happy but worrying. Och I’m just a miserable old git Be no issue keeping Wilson, no top club would want him with his injury record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, George Bailey said: Solid and much improved (obviously) 7/10 for this window. Very happy with quality of acquisitions and personnel but feel we are light in overall squad depth putting us at slight risk. Just a wee bit worried that failure to progress this season (if it happens) may lead to challenges around keeping Wilson, Bruno ASM for instance come next season, and our inability to strengthen the squad depth may be a factor in progression and an issue that bites us if injuries hit us in particular. All in all happy but worrying. Och I’m just a miserable old git If injuries hit us we'll be weakened, of course. But that's unlikely given how we're managing the threats. Wilson might miss 9 games this season from little worries, but if we ignore them he could miss 20. The one thing our early season form has shown is that we can cope with a few injuries. As the season progresses I think we'll see less and less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 23 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Wonder if people are rating the quality of the squad rather than rating the transfer window. Yeah, there's been a lot of this in the thread. Seems like people are rating how ready our squad is for a top 7 (Europe) challenge rather than on what's been achieved by the club over the summer transfer window. Point is, the club haven't publicly said anything about the target being top 7, that's just what people are hopng for based on our post Christmas form and our owners' obvious wealth. I agree the squad is probably not quite strong enough yet to realistically expect us to qualify for Europe at the end of the season, but with a little bit of luck who knows. Purely looking at the transfer window though, we've strengthened very significantly, signing four players who go straight into the first XI, two of whom at an age and with the pedigree where they could become long term stalwarts as the club aims to eventually compete with the very best. Enormous progress has also been made off the field with two major appointments laying very solid foundations for long term commercial and sporting success. I give it 9/10, with my main gripe being that we haven't managed to recoup any money from our rejects, but I guess this just goes to show how bad our squad was this time last year. It's important to remember that all this has been achieved by the owners spending their own money, which is something they didn't have to, and at a time where the club cannot yet compete with the clubs that can offer elite players CL football and title challenges. I for one am very glad with the way the new owners are building this club from the ground up in a patient and intelligent way without falling in the obvious traps of signing big name past it players on far too much money. If we carry on as we are it won't be long at all before we'll be in Europe and challenging for CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 We've massively improved on two vital positions at opposite ends of the pitch. Botman might not be a massive improvement on Burn, but overall our strength in depth is off the chart, and he allowed us to use Burn when Targett was out. I don't mourn the lack of a RW because I see Isak occupying that team place, a lot. Would have liked more strength in depth in the middle, or preferably an upgrade on Willock, but once we went from haggling between 25 & 30 million for Pedro, to slapping 60 mill on the table for Isak, that no doubt limited our options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 10 hours ago, kingxlnc said: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/vertragslosespieler Free agents - worth trying for 1 year contracts to fill gaps in squad: CB - Jason Denayer CB - Dan Axel-Zagadou RB - Dijibril Sidibe RB - Santiago Arias AM - Ross Barkley RW - Hatem Ben Arfa (!!!) CM - Mehdi Abied CM - Alan Dzagoev CM - Fabian Delph Zaga-bloody-dou??!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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