TheDarkKnight Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, Alan Pardew said: Championship player who goes into hiding during matches. Awful. Fred (who cost £50m) had on average of 61 touches/84% pass success rate per match last season. McTominay had 56 touches/86% pass success rate. Hardly much of a difference. As I said earlier, instead of using their own judgement and making up their own mind, people just come out with pop-culture references. It's easy. No thought involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 "Hiding from the ball" is just shit/lazy position. There's a video out there of him literally running behind opposition players though, blocking off passing lines to himself, which is pretty funny Not sure how accurate that is of him all in all, but for all Longstaff's faults he pops up absolutely everywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Pass success rates of players that never create chances don’t mean a great deal tbh, and we need a midfielder that can help us open teams up when they sit back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said: Fair point. Physically he's a monster. He wins his fair share of ground duels and air duels, more than Longstaff does. He gets dribbled past less often than Longstaff. I'd say that his passing is better, too. He's also deceptively a really good dribbler. He would be an upgrade on Longstaff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 TheDarkKnight is clearly Mctominay’s agent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Well I for one welcome this useless piece of **** I'm sick of having players I like or that have potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, TheDarkKnight said: Very welcome. Yeah. It's a strange one. It just shows you how toxic and viral the net can be. One bright spark said that he "hides from the ball", next thing we know it's like a scene from "The Scarlett letter". Maybe he should wear a big red "H" on his shirt. As a Scotland fan, he's never really fluffed his lines at center back (in a back three) so I definitely trust him there. In midfield, we haven't really seen the best of him. Yeah. He isn't really an anchorman. His tackling is fine, but it's his general lack of defensive positioning that lets him down. I do think he's better going towards the opposition goal rather than his own. I'd say that he's an old school box-to-box player. Interesting. I agree to some extent, but even now, every top team plays with anchorman (in a single or double-pivot). Bayern Munich with Kimmich, Barcelona with Busquets, Manchester United with Casemiro, etc. Then you think of players like Kate, Makelele, Dunga, Deschamps, Lambert, etc. A midfield, more than any position, has to be nuanced and be varied. Look what happened when Sven tried to squeeze Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard into the same team. Chaos. I'm not going to lie, Scott McTominay is a strange player. But there is definitely a player in there. And he's certainly EPL class. He strikes me as a confidence player. Frankly, if he were most players, and they received as much abuse as he gets, they would've blown a gasket and unleashed on the Manchester United fans. Players like Lingard, Ronaldo and Pogba deserve the crap that they took, as all three took the club and fans for a ride. McTominay has been dignified and professional throughout. He doesn't deserve the crap that he takes from keyboard warriors who talk like they have a UEFA Coaching badge. I don't think it's match going fans, though. He's also a manager's dream. He won't cause any fuss behind the scenes and he'll do his job. Tune in on Saturday and Tuesday, as we're playing Cyprus and Spain. Well it’s certainly true that supporters of all clubs have a tendency to scapegoat players, and social media has exacerbated the problem I suppose I haven’t seen any particular piece of play, or any particular match, where McTom has stood out. Obviously as an opposing fan I haven’t seen all that much of him, and maybe he’s not the type of player that produces the spectacular, but it’s still difficult to get excited about this signing I would say that he’s been unlucky in starting his career at Man U at a time of such instability, especially with Rangnick being given that unclear role and with the crazy re-signing of Ronaldo. Yours has been an unhappy club and he could well benefit from a fresh start in a better atmosphere. Either way, Ten Haag seems to have settled on his best set up, and it doesn’t include him. He has to go. Edited March 22, 2023 by Cronky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) No offence but we need to being aiming higher than a Man Utd reserve. Actually, fuck him, fuck Man Utd the wankstain shithouse cunt of a club, he can fuck right off. PS. If he signed like all hypocrites I'll cheer him on with gay abandon. Edited March 22, 2023 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 How has this thread managed eight pages? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: How has this thread managed eight pages? Fear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: TheDarkKnight is clearly Mctominay’s agent. Yep, or a Man Utd fan who wants rid of him so is spending his time trying to sell us all on him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 alan smith and nicky butt say hi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 hours ago, TheDarkKnight said: Fred (who cost £50m) had on average of 61 touches/84% pass success rate per match last season. McTominay had 56 touches/86% pass success rate. Hardly much of a difference. As I said earlier, instead of using their own judgement and making up their own mind, people just come out with pop-culture references. It's easy. No thought involved. Your comparison is a waste of time though since Fred is shite and I wouldn't want us to sign him either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkKnight Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 hours ago, Sean said: Yep, or a Man Utd fan who wants rid of him so is spending his time trying to sell us all on him I actually don't want him to leave. In an ideal world he will unlock his potential and stay put and cement a place In the first XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkKnight Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Cronky said: Well it’s certainly true that supporters of all clubs have a tendency to scapegoat players, and social media has exacerbated the problem I suppose I haven’t seen any particular piece of play, or any particular match, where McTom has stood out. Obviously as an opposing fan I haven’t seen all that much of him, and maybe he’s not the type of player that produces the spectacular, but it’s still difficult to get excited about this signing I would say that he’s been unlucky in starting his career at Man U at a time of such instability, especially with Rangnick being given that unclear role and with the crazy re-signing of Ronaldo. Yours has been an unhappy club and he could well benefit from a fresh start in a better atmosphere. Either way, Ten Haag seems to have settled on his best set up, and it doesn’t include him. He has to go. Yeah. That's an excellent point and one that I've often made. In previous generations youngers at Manchester United have had the likes of Keane, Bruce, Ince, Robson, Cantona, etc, to learn from, but the previous few generations of kids have had to learn on their feet. Pretty much why a few have went off the rails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkKnight Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Bimpy474 said: No offence but we need to being aiming higher than a Man Utd reserve. Actually, fuck him, fuck Man Utd the wankstain shithouse cunt of a club, he can fuck right off. PS. If he signed like all hypocrites I'll cheer him on with gay abandon. At least you're honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Is anyone else filled with fear and loathing when this is bumped to the top? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Beth said: Is anyone else filled with fear and loathing when this is bumped to the top? No why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 50 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said: Yeah. That's an excellent point and one that I've often made. In previous generations youngers at Manchester United have had the likes of Keane, Bruce, Ince, Robson, Cantona, etc, to learn from, but the previous few generations of kids have had to learn on their feet. Pretty much why a few have went off the rails. Strangely no mention of Giggs there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Until we sign him then it's speculation. If we do sign him then I'd suggest Howe and co see enough in him to aid in the forward movement of this club. As for what I think of him. I would support any player no matter who it was we bring in, like most would. But, as we've known on many occasion, we get linked with all kinds of players and very few come to fruition or were never on the radar to start with except for rumour mill gossip.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Not for me like, Yak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 5 hours ago, TheDarkKnight said: I actually don't want him to leave. In an ideal world he will unlock his potential and stay put and cement a place In the first XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 12 hours ago, TheDarkKnight said: Fair point. Physically he's a monster. He wins his fair share of ground duels and air duels, more than Longstaff does. He gets dribbled past less often than Longstaff. I'd say that his passing is better, too. He's also deceptively a really good dribbler. He would be an upgrade on Longstaff. Exciting stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 10 hours ago, St1pe said: Fear. And loathing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 On the bench for Scotland against Ketsbaias Cyprus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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