WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Can't help but think stuff like that just increases Ashley's stubbornness. Don't get me wrong, it's good he's being called out - but he won't change his mind because of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 This is going to be a long season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 why no noises from ashleyout? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 why no noises from ashleyout? https://twitter.com/AshleyOutdotcom/status/1019258072076832768 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Depressing stuff. Can't even fucking enjoy having Rafa for one more season given the reason he'll leave and knowing what'll be left behind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 We’re light years behind even promoted teams now who are showing willing and ambition to compete. How many other managers of clubs in the PL have, in this window, had to admit they’ve not got a penny to work with. It’s fucking embarrassing. But for Rafa this ship would sink without a trace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 So the path Mike Ashley has chosen is don't do anything Rafa wants to improve NUFC, Rafa leaves at the end of his contract, the morale collapses, players want to leave, fans give up, NUFC are relegated, Ashley thinks he can buy a team to win the Championship (like promotion is guaranteed) regardless of which manager he employs, etc. This coming season may be a struggle but it will be nothing compared to the seasons which follow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 This prick released eighty fucking million for Steve McfuckingLaren when that somewhat meant something and he won't give Rafa Benitez half of that. This absolute spunk monkey must be due a heart attack, ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 So the path Mike Ashley has chosen is don't do anything Rafa wants to improve NUFC, Rafa leaves at the end of his contract, the morale collapses, players want to leave, fans give up, NUFC are relegated, Ashley thinks he can buy a team to win the Championship (like promotion is guaranteed) regardless of which manager he employs, etc. This coming season may be a struggle but it will be nothing compared to the seasons which follow. Important (imo) that we stay down, or suffer back-to-back relegations, because it's uncharted territory for Ashley. He's set us to be a zombie club (which merely survives..... and will burn a world class manager when there's a disconnect re:ambition) in the top flight, and so far he's had it easy (when we've dropped) by shoveling funds from his own pocket (to clean up his mess) springing back up at the first attempt. It's a scenario we haven't seen yet, to affect the reluctant seller ie. Sports Direct United anchored beneath the PL with bottomed-out ST sales & attendances, after repeated gamble/cash injections (to gain promotion) have blown up in his face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Shoveling funds from his own pocket? Plunging the club in more debt more like. Anyway, as I’ve suggested before, Rafa should have given Ashley an ultimatum this summer while he holds all the aces: back me/sell up or I walk. Shame he apparently hasn’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Shoveling funds from his own pocket? Plunging the club in more debt more like. Anyway, as I’ve suggested before, Rafa should have given Ashley an ultimatum this summer while he holds all the aces: back me/sell up or I walk. Shame he apparently hasn’t. Not sure why you think he should walk out on his contract early at his own expense. He basically is saying that, but he's a professional and doing it the right way imo. Back me or I'll not extend my contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Shoveling funds from his own pocket? Plunging the club in more debt more like. Anyway, as I’ve suggested before, Rafa should have given Ashley an ultimatum this summer while he holds all the aces: back me/sell up or I walk. Shame he apparently hasn’t. Not sure why you think he should walk out on his contract early at his own expense. He basically is saying that, but he's a professional and doing it the right way imo. Back me or I'll not extend my contract. constructive dismissal route? assuming this window goes the way it appears it will then i'd like to at least think rafa might start piping up a bit more publicly against the club narrative...that's the only thing that's going to get through to the majority of our shit-thick fans like, if someone like rafa starts to publicly question the narrative can't see it though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Rafa will let it all out when he decides to leave. Hope that would be a precursor to anti-MA protests, however unlikely it may be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Rafa will let it all out when he decides to leave. Hope that would be a precursor to anti-MA protests, however unlikely it may be. can see him getting narky when injuries etc. start biting us and he's being questioned by the press, hopefully he starts to publicly question why other clubs can spend money and we can't etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 So the path Mike Ashley has chosen is don't do anything Rafa wants to improve NUFC, Rafa leaves at the end of his contract, the morale collapses, players want to leave, fans give up, NUFC are relegated, Ashley thinks he can buy a team to win the Championship (like promotion is guaranteed) regardless of which manager he employs, etc. This coming season may be a struggle but it will be nothing compared to the seasons which follow. Rafa Benitez isn't the only manager out there capable of keeping Newcastle in the Premier League. We'll appoint someone else, tread water and Ashley will wonder why he ever bothered with a manager who wanted progress. I've said this before but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he sacks him a few weeks into the season. He clearly has no intention of selling the club so what's his motivating for keeping a non-compliant dissenter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Aimed at anyone who understands the accounts (Matt?) but how do you suggest the TV money is going to be hidden in the next accounts released? There's no way he's going to risk the club making a huge profit, and unless we're paying the three new players £400k a week, there's no way that the wage bill has increased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 So the path Mike Ashley has chosen is don't do anything Rafa wants to improve NUFC, Rafa leaves at the end of his contract, the morale collapses, players want to leave, fans give up, NUFC are relegated, Ashley thinks he can buy a team to win the Championship (like promotion is guaranteed) regardless of which manager he employs, etc. This coming season may be a struggle but it will be nothing compared to the seasons which follow. Rafa Benitez isn't the only manager out there capable of keeping Newcastle in the Premier League. We'll appoint someone else, tread water and Ashley will wonder why he ever bothered with a manager who wanted progress. I've said this before but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he sacks him a few weeks into the season. He clearly has no intention of selling the club so what's his motivating for keeping a non-compliant dissenter? Pardew or Big Sam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Aimed at anyone who understands the accounts (Matt?) but how do you suggest the TV money is going to be hidden in the next accounts released? There's no way he's going to risk the club making a huge profit, and unless we're paying the three new players £400k a week, there's no way that the wage bill has increased. It cannot be hidden. But if, for example, Ashley uses the tv money to repay his loan it won’t affect the stated profit at all. It will just reduce the company’s debt liability to him. I have no idea if he will do that but this is just to make the point that it can’t disappear from the accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 There doesn't seem much hunger for action against this cunt. It's no good waiting for Rafa to go before people get worked up. When did we become so soft? Drag the fat shit out of his mansion and beat him to death like Gaddaffi's final moments... or just some Ashley Out leaflets or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 There doesn't seem much hunger for action against this cunt. It's no good waiting for Rafa to go before people get worked up. When did we become so soft? Drag the fat shit out of his mansion and beat him to death like Gaddaffi's final moments... or just some Ashley Out leaflets or whatever. He has done it for almost 10 years now and no one seems to fussed, put Souness in the dug out and its like the Gaul's rampaging through Rome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 https://twitter.com/tfmichael1892/status/1019248003041947648 Vindicated basically. I like many others said they'd do as Rafa asked and back up which I've done by continuing my season ticket what looks to be one more season. My season ticket hasn't increased like many others as I was in the 10 year deal. If Rafa goes next season and Ashley stays then my season ticket wont be being renewed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Aimed at anyone who understands the accounts (Matt?) but how do you suggest the TV money is going to be hidden in the next accounts released? There's no way he's going to risk the club making a huge profit, and unless we're paying the three new players £400k a week, there's no way that the wage bill has increased. It cannot be hidden. But if, for example, Ashley uses the tv money to repay his loan it won’t affect the stated profit at all. It will just reduce the company’s debt liability to him. I have no idea if he will do that but this is just to make the point that it can’t disappear from the accounts. Stop talking sense, quayside! Shoveling funds from his own pocket? Plunging the club in more debt more like. Ashley put money into NUFC on both occasions, he repaid himself the first time after the Carroll sale, we'll have to wait to see if the same thing has happened this time- it could be one reason why there is such limited funds this summer. He didn't plunge the club into debt, this was just the mechanism of him putting more money in and out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Aimed at anyone who understands the accounts (Matt?) but how do you suggest the TV money is going to be hidden in the next accounts released? There's no way he's going to risk the club making a huge profit, and unless we're paying the three new players £400k a week, there's no way that the wage bill has increased. It cannot be hidden. But if, for example, Ashley uses the tv money to repay his loan it won’t affect the stated profit at all. It will just reduce the company’s debt liability to him. I have no idea if he will do that but this is just to make the point that it can’t disappear from the accounts. Thanks. Wasn't suggesting he was going to funnel it out, I was just wondering what creative accounting he could use. I'd kinda prefer if he did come out and say that he's repaying the loan to be honest. I don't want the club to be in any debt to that wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 He didn’t plunge us into debt that is correct however his gross mis management which had led to Two relegations and a decrease in commercial revenue must equate to the amount he’s put in at least. That’s before we talk about all the free advertising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Clutching at straws but could Ashley be holding funds for next summer for some reason? Rafa says he'll walk then all of a sudden there'll be a great lump of money for him to spend that for some reason isn't/can't be there this summer Yeah wishful thinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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