Football Governance

[Rosenrot]

ESPN are reporting that the Champions League semi finals are to go ahead as planned next week

[Wallsendmag]

3 minutes ago, reefatoon said:

Have to say, I haven't enjoyed football for a long time, find it boring as fuck, so I am quite enjoying watching this all fuck itself up the arse. At last we have a bit of entertainment for a change.

I feel exactly the same. Put Sky Sports on last night, watched it from 7pm - 8pm to hear what Neville and Carragher had to say, switched it off at 8, and then put it back on at 10 to see if they had any more interviews lined up. I'm not that bothered however it all ends up, I've discovered other interests away from football these past few years, but I'm enjoying all the drama and outrage!

[joeyt]

 

It will have been posted before but seeing this lad nailing it a few years ago

[Deuce]

38 minutes ago, jdckelly said:

honestly one of the things I don't get and maybe the amercians on here can explain it to me what the fuck is the appeal of the regular season in nfl etc 

You probably have to enjoy American football as a start.

For one, it’s a far more equitable league. Perennially bad teams in the NFL are so because of bad management/coaching, not because they’re financially poor. Any team can go from bottom of the league to a contender within a season or two. And playoffs are terrific entertainment.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Tomato Deuce said:

You probably have to enjoy American football as a start.

For one, it’s a far more equitable league. Perennially bad teams in the NFL are so because of bad management/coaching, not because they’re financially poor. Any team can go from bottom of the league to a contender within a season or two. And playoffs are terrific entertainment.

Another thing about US sports is they actually have a balancing mechanism which is the draft which helps attempt to keep things competitive. 
 

 

[RS]

President of Real Madrid, 74 year old billionaire Florentine Perez reckons :

"Young people are no longer interested in football.  We have to raise more money organising more competitive games.  "This is not a league for the rich, it's a league to save football"

All this in a closed league with no relegation, not involving the top European clubs and very little chance of young people actually attending a game. 

[Tsunami]

Any point in a poll asking who would watch any Super League games, leave cost of watching it, would you? Absolutely no chance I’d watch a single match, not even if we were in it, glorified show matches when it comes down to it. I’d rather watch us in The National League than effectively kill all other football.

[James]

Think it’s worth taking a moment to follow the trend and congratulate NUFC on its 6 PL titles, 2 runners up, and 2 further FA Cup wins

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[Stifler]

24 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Find this more funny the more I think of it. Just the audacity of it.

 

Saying they’ll go and get all the best referees too.

If they are taking the Premier League referee’s then fucking go for it lads, god bless you all.

[Interpolic]

Just now, Tsunami said:

Any point in a poll asking who would watch any Super League games, leave cost of watching it, would you? Absolutely no chance I’d watch a single match, not even if we were in it, glorified show matches when it comes down to it. I’d rather watch us in The National League than effectively kill all other football.

It'll be added to my Ashley ventures shit list, personally. I'll get rid of Amazon Prime and stop shopping there as well, as hard as that is these days. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, Tsunami said:

Any point in a poll asking who would watch any Super League games, leave cost of watching it, would you? Absolutely no chance I’d watch a single match, not even if we were in it, glorified show matches when it comes down to it. I’d rather watch us in The National League than effectively kill all other football.

You won't be able to watch the Premier League anymore either TBH, it'll be killed stone dead. Unless the clubs are kicked out.

[ponsaelius]

There is definitely benefits of the US sporting model. It has checks and balances in terms of salary caps, equitable self-correcting mechanisms in terms of draft picks etc. That can make the system a little bit fairer for the teams involved in it - so long as your city has the critical mass and ownership capable of buying into it in the first place. 

But it's borne out of a totally different culture and structure. The power has already been historically consolidated in these teams/franchises from the very beginning, and fans have coalesced towards those sides, and that is the status quo that is accepted. The ladder has never been there anyway so it can't be pulled up.

Doing it in European football is just so fundamentally different because you're pulling up the drawbridge on historic 100+ year old clubs that have previously won titles, trophies and have competed at the top level in Europe. You're also pulling it up on thousands of other clubs that exist within the league pyramids of the various countries where the possibility is always there that one day you could do that. 

 

 

Edited April 20, 2021 by ponsaelius

[BlueStar]

Please try and make celebrities out of referees.

[Stifler]

3 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

Any point in a poll asking who would watch any Super League games, leave cost of watching it, would you? Absolutely no chance I’d watch a single match, not even if we were in it, glorified show matches when it comes down to it. I’d rather watch us in The National League than effectively kill all other football.

Would I fuck, not even if it was free to air on BBC 1.

[Wallsendmag]

7 minutes ago, RS said:

President of Real Madrid, 74 year old billionaire Florentine Perez reckons :

"Young people are no longer interested in football.  We have to raise more money organising more competitive games.  "This is not a league for the rich, it's a league to save football"

All this in a closed league with no relegation, not involving the top European clubs and very little chance of young people actually attending a game. 

He's sort of right. Young people aren't interested in attending football matches as much these days, certainly not in our country. A study of Premier League season ticket holders a few years ago had the average age of a Premier League supporter at 45. This of course is mainly in part to Premier League clubs pricing their young fans out though over the past 20 or so years which has ended up costing them a generation of supporters.

 

My son is 8. He's football daft but in his class at school there's only 2 others (from 30) who are interested in football. 

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[AJ9]

Just now, Wallsendmag said:

He's sort of right. Young people aren't interested in attending football matches as much these days, certainly not in our country. A study of Premier League season ticket holders a few years ago had the average age of a Premier League supporter at 45. This of course is mainly in part to Premier League clubs pricing their young fans out though over the past 20 or so years which has ended up costing them a generation of supporters.

 

My son is 8. He's football daft but in his class at school there's only 2 others (from 30) who are interested in football. 

They’d be better off fucking off to create their own esports super league tbf

[triggs]

40% of young people not being interested in football doesn't seem like a very high percentage

[ponsaelius]

Young kids are not ever that interested in football though. Playing it of course - and participation figures are still enormous at youth level. But not following a team or watching one - it's just not something that translates to short attention spans or is something that accessible to young kids.

I don't think kids really get into football (ie watching/going to games) until they're in mid teens - probably even later for most. It is something you grow into later in life. I think the idea that there is less teenagers/20-30 year olds interested in football now is a total nonsense. The opposite is true in fact. The sport is more popular than it ever has been. 

 

[et tu brute]

8 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

He's sort of right. Young people aren't interested in attending football matches as much these days, certainly not in our country. A study of Premier League season ticket holders a few years ago had the average age of a Premier League supporter at 45. This of course is mainly in part to Premier League clubs pricing their young fans out though over the past 20 or so years which has ended up costing them a generation of supporters.

 

My son is 8. He's football daft but in his class at school there's only 2 others (from 30) who are interested in football. 

It’s probably due to the fact that a lot of families can’t afford the prices of attending games. The whole glitz of falling in love with football was actually going to games and getting that personal experience 

 

 

Edited April 20, 2021 by et tu brute

[Guest]

Fuck off Bruce you useless tit.

 

 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

7 minutes ago, 54 said:

 

Someone needs to off this cunt.

[Si]

Fans need to boycott everything to do with the six, not watching the games, not betting on them, not following them on social media. Anything that devalues their brand and makes them be seen as toxic from businesses/media/sponsors.

[Happinesstan]

2 hours ago, BlueStar said:

I do like the way Fernandes' broken English insta quote of "Success can't be buy!" has become a rallying cry.

 

Something that's been lost a bit in how evil it is is potentially how shit it is, even as a cynical money making scheme. Will people really watch it?  So the idea is you get these clubs to constantly play against each other because you look at a Man City-Barcelona Champions League semi final, and see the PPV and ad revenue for that and think you can rake that in every week?  The appeal of these clubs is the huge worldwide interest they have amongst millions of fans, and all the fans are saying "This is shit, don't want it", but you think that's fine because there's supposedly millions more waiting in the wings in China and Singapore who haven't particularly paid much attention thus far but are gonna want to invest the time and money on watching the same match every three weeks?  You've seen how foreign fans get involved in premier league teams, it's not just watching the players, they want to get on the forums, adopt the rivalries, learn the songs and the history.  That's the "cool" thing about football to non-footballing countries, not 90 minutes where, if you're not particularly familiar with what you're watching, nothing much really seems to happen. And you think you're going to have sponsors lining up to throw money at a football competition football fans fucking hate and will resent anyone who bankrolls it?  

 

Part of me hopes they go through with it and, if the 6 are in the Premier League or not, after the initial morbid curiosity dies down nobody really cares about it, players don't really want to play in it and it's just mentioned as a footnote on the inner pages and at the end of the sports bulletin like a shit Club World Cup that's going on in the background while people are engaged in their local competitions, with the big six either not there at all or playing a second string.  And hopefully everyone chucking money into ESL involvement or Juventus shares loses the lot.

The few thousand that attend each game against billions worldwide. It's all in the marketing and whilst I wouldn't have a clue how o market this to the world, I think JP Morgan might be in contact with the type of people that think they can.

 

We'll see.