St1pe Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kimbo said: You could get better midfielders for a fraction of what Rice would cost abroad. He really is a mystery to me, I’ve seen people putting him in their WC team of the tournament. I don’t see what others are seeing. I’m not as far a long as you but I’m not seeing that price tag either. I thought he was a good defensive midfielder in the tournament but for that price tag there’s got to be more than that. There was a good thread on twitter that I can’t find now about how he takes up poor positions to receive the ball and that’s pretty key for that role in my opinion. I don’t think he advances the ball particularly well either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, St1pe said: I’m not as far a long as you but I’m not seeing that price tag either. I thought he was a good defensive midfielder in the tournament but for that price tag there’s got to be more than that. There was a good thread on twitter that I can’t find now about how he takes up poor positions to receive the ball and that’s pretty key for that role in my opinion. I don’t think he advances the ball particularly well either. If we’re talking about Rice he sometimes takes up the McTominay position of being unavailable for an easy pass. Almost always plays it back where it’s came from too. Bruno when receiving the ball short will always try and turn/have a pass in mind before taking the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, St1pe said: I’m not as far a long as you but I’m not seeing that price tag either. I thought he was a good defensive midfielder in the tournament but for that price tag there’s got to be more than that. There was a good thread on twitter that I can’t find now about how he takes up poor positions to receive the ball and that’s pretty key for that role in my opinion. I don’t think he advances the ball particularly well either. Eddie's success with a midfield which has no defensive midfield players does prompt a bit of a debate anyway. The current trend is for a high press winning the ball upfield, so how valuable is the sort of defensive midfield player who just acts as a shield to the back four, like another centre back? Rice strikes me as a hybrid CB/DM, and whilst he's a good version of that type, I'd like us to go for someone with more pace and mobility, if we go for a DM at all. That young Argentinian lad who we've been linked with seemed a better fit. And besides, the prices I've seen touted for Rice have been around £100m. Given where our priorities lie, and given our finances, that's surely not worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Rice is suffering under Moyes and Southgate. His development has stalled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Rice would be an unbelievable signing. He could do the holding role but is comfortable driving forward with the ball when the shackles are off and can also cover at CB. He'd be a priority in the summer for me if he was attainable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Hard to overstate how class a signing Rice would be. Casemiro to Man Utd is the closest example I can think of. Have to think he’ll end up somewhere like Chelsea though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Rice actually has some decent pace no? Which would make more than happy to place Bruno in an 8 role. But as of now I’ve yet to feel comfortable with any 6 being signed that would allow for Bruno to move up field as I’m just not sure our pressing will be as good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Somebody mentioned earlier that a CM who can receive the ball and make the half turn towards the opposition´s half (in the same moment) is what i think eddie is looking for, as well as being tenacious and technically competent (maintains position). For quick transitions and more vertical play you need this type of player, both bruno and Jow do this a lot of the time. I think Rice complies with everything but the positive turn towards the opposition, he makes a sideways or backwards pass the majority of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchyTBB Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) Rice would immediately and significantly improve the team. For me, if we could only make one January signing, it should be him. Edited December 14, 2022 by TorchyTBB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Top banter merchant in the league too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Where has all this Rice talk come from? Feels like it's been going on a few pages now without any real concrete link/source. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Rice has sixth most touches in the league and most passes into the final third, two stats which Trippier is very high in. I'm pretty sure he's very high, as in top or near-top, in "progressive carries", basically carrying the ball forward. His defensive stats are also excellent. It's the kind of signing who would make us less reliant on Trippier while still playing a defensive LB, possibly to unleash Maxi or Isak at LW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: Where has all this Rice talk come from? Feels like it's been going on a few pages now without any real concrete link/source. It's been coming to the boil for a few days now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: Where has all this Rice talk come from? Feels like it's been going on a few pages now without any real concrete link/source. There isn’t one single link to him in the media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 I’d prefer that Rizwan Otto fella from FC Bhaat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Absolutely no chance we’d get Rice. We’re a few years away from spending the kind of money that’d take and convincing players to actually sign. FWIW, I also think that we’ll continue to buy the “right” type of player and not who the media hype up. Would love Maddison, Gapko is probably destined for a bigger club than us and I looked at Leoa thinking he looks raw with massive potential only to realise that so does everyone else and he’d cost upwards of 90M. Further back into midfield it wouldn’t take that much to upgrade Shelvey or Longstaff and not having a go at either of them, a sensible upgrade could make a significant improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 I imagine he'll go elsewhere even if we tried, but for how much Rice would probably cost I also imagine the club would see better value in spreading that kind of money across two other targets at this stage in the team's development. I wouldn't argue if we get him by any means but I won't feel like we've lost out hugely if we can't/aren't interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 There isn't a grain of truth in Rice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 If he did move up here, would he live in Pelaw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: Where has all this Rice talk come from? Feels like it's been going on a few pages now without any real concrete link/source. Its the way we do things round here. He will have his own thread shortly... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Prophet said: There isn't a grain of truth in Rice. Heard he’s in the bag. Been seen driving through Pilau. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, Stal said: If he did move up here, would he live in Pelaw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) Maddison is not so different from Rice as a signing, except maybe for contract situation. Both very hyped English players at rival PL clubs. Not saying we can/will pay him what he wants and he would choose us anyway, obvs. Edited December 14, 2022 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazy Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 28 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Heard he’s in the bag. Been seen driving through Pilau. bit of a sake comment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Rice is a better player than a lot of people are giving him credit for. Miles better than Longstaff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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