Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) Nonce Wing. Crown Court bail app was refused today so highly likely to stay in prison now until his trial, unless there is a change of circumstances. Edited September 1, 2021 by Shays Given Tim Flowers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 38 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: Nonce Wing. Crown Court bail app was refused today so highly likely to stay in prison now until his trial, unless there is a change of circumstances. Reading about some of the allegations against him is harrowing stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 42 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: Nonce Wing. Crown Court bail app was refused today so highly likely to stay in prison now until his trial, unless there is a change of circumstances. "for your own safety would like to be put with the rapists and nonces?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 You're at much more risk of attack in general population than you would be in with people accused of similar is the logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: You're at much more risk of attack in general population than you would be in with people accused of similar is the logic. I know, it's just funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 VIP prison wing?? Is he out of touch or am I?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 @ManDoon I haven't read anything much at all. It is quite difficult predicting outcomes at the best of times and it's gotten harder in recent years. I think Jury's are more likely to convict post #metoo and Savile both in terms of sexual offences generally and convicting celebrities. The fact that there are multiple complainants will make it easier to prove a case beyond reasonable doubt. However, the fact each of these incidents happens at his house may well help him with the reasonable belief in consent defence he is almost certain to be running. Also from what I understand three rape charges are on the same day (2 complainants?) which again helps from a defence point of view. It's difficult to say much without reading the evidence so that's all very broad brush stuff. What will be damning evidence is if there are similarities between the methodology of the October 2020 rapes and the most recent Rape alleged to have been committed whilst on bail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Chester Crown also happens to be where Ched Evans was convicted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 19 hours ago, BlueStar said: should be displayed in the British Museum tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Had it been leaked anywhere that he had been arrested/under investigation/on bail? I don’t recall it but I know Twitter is a cesspit for stuff like that with celebs. If he’s not actually guilty, he’s thick as fuck allowing himself to get into a difficult situation for the most recent allegation (Aug 2021) when already on bail for a RASSO case (Oct 2020). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Had it been leaked anywhere that he had been arrested/under investigation/on bail? I don’t recall it but I know Twitter is a cesspit for stuff like that with celebs. If he’s not actually guilty, he’s thick as fuck allowing himself to get into a difficult situation for the most recent allegation (Aug 2021) when already on bail for a RASSO case (Oct 2020). They mentioned that he'd been on bail on the Guardian football podcast so it was in an official police statement somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 It's very early and hard to speculate. The early signs don't look too favourable for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 rank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 If it gets rid of the acon I'm all for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Decent read this! https://www.football.london/brentford-fc/right-end-hell-breaks-loose-21457458.amp?__twitter_impression=true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Dokko said: If it gets rid of the acon I'm all for it. I don't know why you are focusing on Africa, it is hard to see how this can pass without essentially ending every major continental competition. It would ruin the international calendar as we know it. Speaking of internationals, the decisions from the UK government are understandable, I suppose, but it is still madness that we are going through with massive international matches, given the competitive imbalance of Premier League players not being allowed to play in certain nations. Many Brazilians, Argentinians, and Colombians are going to miss big matches in this window, Egypt had to play without several top players and CIV will be doing the same, all at the entirely arbitrary whim of the UK government. South Africa's reward for letting a variant run out of control is to play a weakened Ghana at home and Cape Verde's reward for bring arbitrarily red-listed is to host a Nigeria side that will have to drop 8 players, 6-7 of whom would probably start. I am amazed a resolution to this was not worked out and we are just proceeding since this is not a problem with any other country. Edited September 2, 2021 by Segun Oluwaniyi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Segun Oluwaniyi said: I don't know why you are focusing on Africa, it is hard to see how this can pass without essentially ending every major continental competition. It would ruin the international calendar as we know it. Speaking of internationals, the decisions from the UK government are understandable, I suppose, but it is still madness that we are going through with massive international matches, given the competitive imbalance of Premier League players not being allowed to play in certain nations. Many Brazilians, Argentinians, and Colombians are going to miss big matches in this window, Egypt had to play without several top players and CIV will be doing the same, all at the entirely arbitrary whim of the UK government. South Africa's reward for letting a variant run out of control is to play a weakened Ghana at home and Cape Verde's reward for bring arbitrarily red-listed is to host a Nigeria side that will have to drop 8 players, 6-7 of whom would probably start. I am amazed a resolution to this was not worked out and we are just proceeding since this is not a problem with any other country. No other reason than Because you lose your best African players for 8 weeks of the season every 2 years and is a fucking mare in FM. I literally have to ban African purchases and I'm sick of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Segun Oluwaniyi said: I don't know why you are focusing on Africa, it is hard to see how this can pass without essentially ending every major continental competition. It would ruin the international calendar as we know it. Speaking of internationals, the decisions from the UK government are understandable, I suppose, but it is still madness that we are going through with massive international matches, given the competitive imbalance of Premier League players not being allowed to play in certain nations. Many Brazilians, Argentinians, and Colombians are going to miss big matches in this window, Egypt had to play without several top players and CIV will be doing the same, all at the entirely arbitrary whim of the UK government. South Africa's reward for letting a variant run out of control is to play a weakened Ghana at home and Cape Verde's reward for bring arbitrarily red-listed is to host a Nigeria side that will have to drop 8 players, 6-7 of whom would probably start. I am amazed a resolution to this was not worked out and we are just proceeding since this is not a problem with any other country. Yeah. It feels like every week there’s another dagger in football’s festering corpse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 minute ago, leffe186 said: Yeah. It feels like every week there’s another dagger in football’s festering corpse. Like it or lump it the European leagues have more pulling power than all of Africa, America's and Asia put together. It was only the proper corruption that kept the Caribbeans remotely relevant....maybe Jack Warner was just ahead of the curve and genuinely wanted progress (obviously as long as his own wallet got fatter)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I mean, I’ve long since lumped it tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 On the theme of English players going abroad, Jack Wilshere has signed for Cuomo. Could have done worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Theres a story in Popbitch about a dodgy 'exec at a big club' overpaying for a player by 20M and it not being 'immediately clear where the remaining balance ended up'. If theres clues in the text about who it is or who the club is then I havnt figured it out?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lazarus said: Theres a story in Popbitch about a dodgy 'exec at a big club' overpaying for a player by 20M and it not being 'immediately clear where the remaining balance ended up'. If theres clues in the text about who it is or who the club is then I havnt figured it out?? There was rumours Ashley paid £20 million for shares in a business owned by the son of the Hoffenheim owner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rafalove said: On the theme of English players going abroad, Jack Wilshere has signed for Cuomo. Could have done worse Turns out he can't be registered to actually play for them because he doesn't hold a EU passport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ben said: There was rumours Ashley paid £20 million for shares in a business owned by the son of the Hoffenheim owner First Ive heard of that tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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