NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

7 minutes ago, andycap said:

It's getting silly nowadays like nearly every striker we look at is been met with 60 million plus.

most of them are shite aswell. 

It’s this which makes the Liverpool fans saying Isak isn’t worth £150M look like mugs to me. They literally paid £80m for a kid with one season of first team football in an inferior league, but at least the second best striker in the PL for the past 2.5 years isn’t worth more than 50% more than that. For that alone we should tell Liverpool to get fucked

[Kimbo]

3 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

This Isak stuff is going to slow our incoming business from slow to glacial, right?

We should have a CB budget, a CM budget, and a Wilson replacement budget. Isak’s replacement can

pay for themselves, if they agree a deal with Liverpool, then line up his replacement so that both deals can go through at the same time.

 

Maybe that’s oversimplifying things but I don’t think this would stop a competent team.

[Dr.Spaceman]

Imagine we don't sign anyone else this summer....does that mean we can go absolutely radge in next years windows?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Yeah we should be doing the other deals regardless really. Can't say I'm confident we are, but we should be. 

[80]

Re: Watkins and Wissa, to get CL I think we need Top 4 and that feels highly unlikely at this time. An additional CD and CM required at a minimum, both first team quality.

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

 

I still don't understand that argument. Surely signing two almost guaranteed premier league goalscorers is exactly what will help build our revenue long term. And I don't buy that, if Watkins and Wissa performed well for two years for us, we couldn't recoup a decent chunk of change from someone... Saudi or wherever. 

 

We need to attack this season with the aim of another Top 5 or 6 finish. In my opinion, we aren't going to remotely give ourselves the best chance with unproven players like the Porto lad or Sesko. We're much more likely to have a couple of good years, with players who WANT to be here, with players like Watkins or Wissa. Both, also, crucially have good fitness records.

 

2 minutes ago, lovejoy said:

Watkins and wissa will give us just as much of a chance of champs league next season as any.

 

get them in, who knows what happens with the apt case or with a new sporting director in the meantime.

 

id much rather Watkins than a Sesko type who’ll put us back here in 12/24 months.

They don't not guarantee you champions league they are both expensive. They are both old and with no release value. 

 

We need as many players in our squad to have resale value, so we can pick and choose who we sell and we'll. This summer has shown we've allowed market conditions to dictate our behaviour, we need to be in a position where we take advantage of them. 

 

Long term squad planning basically. 

[andycap]

Wissa should be our priority to get an actual striker into the club. 

Then look at the young up and coming strikers that could do well now and turn a beast in a few years. 

[nufcjmc]

10 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

 

I still don't understand that argument. Surely signing two almost guaranteed premier league goalscorers is exactly what will help build our revenue long term. And I don't buy that, if Watkins and Wissa performed well for two years for us, we couldn't recoup a decent chunk of change from someone... Saudi or wherever. 

 

We need to attack this season with the aim of another Top 5 or 6 finish. In my opinion, we aren't going to remotely give ourselves the best chance with unproven players like the Porto lad or Sesko. We're much more likely to have a couple of good years, with players who WANT to be here, with players like Watkins or Wissa. Both, also, crucially have good fitness records.

I think its reasonable to do it with 1 of the 2 strikers get experience a bit more guarantee on output and its not so bad if what they gave you short term doesn't come back financially in a resale. No gaurentees with any player in 2 or 3 years time they will be worth money to anyone the Saudi league may not save us so shouldn't come into the thinking. Harsh business sense should say there is every chance they walk for next to nothing and that should be factored into the risk analysis. So the fee of 60m plus for Watkins and 35 or 40 is a big ask. Spending nearly 100 or more does help this year combined they could and should bring more depth to the side than old man Wilson and isak did last year and provides depth we didn't have last year.

 

However I can still see that fast forward conversation in 2 or 3 years time where we need funds to reinvest and sign replacements and the funds aren't there. You also have to look at the age of players elsewhere in the squad we have alot of positions to fill already in the next 24 months. 

 

Having both your strikers aging at the same time and potentially both needing to be replaced around the same time especially in a position that is getting more and more expensive to recruit in us dangerous.

 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2025 by nufcjmc

[Jewel]

Market conditions are bad, but nowhere near as bad as the club have made it seem to be.

 

Surely finding and signing a significant upgrade on Wilson for a relatively good fee should have been simple enough, right? There must be at least a hundred strikers out there better than this current version of Wilson.

 

We can't even do that, so it remains to be seen on how we plan on replacing Isak.

[alexf]

1 hour ago, Kanj said:

 

some of our top players?

 

sounds like this was a true shock to everyone. this heel turn. 

 

Wouldn't be surprised if there is abit of ego from the other players as well. 

Like saying "oh you did all this by yourself did you Alex?, you're above the rest of us and we did nothing?"

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

Hopefully our firm no will stop clubs we’re dealing with waiting for their piece of the Isak bonanza. 

[ponsaelius]

Can we please sign some players. If Isak ends up staying we still need ST, CM, CB as minimum 

[Solitude20]

6 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Can we please sign some players. If Isak ends up staying we still need ST, CM, CB as minimum 

Isak stays, and we get Wissa, Gallagher, and Ghehi. On top of already securing Elanga and Ramsdale, that would be a great window. 

[Whitley mag]

Watkins is 30 in December and relies a lot on his pace. They’d want 60 million at least to sell him at this late stage of the window.

 

PSR wise it’s expensive as fuck. To bring down the cost of the deal you’d have to give him a longer contract, then you’d be committing 150k per week until he’s in his mid 30’s.

 

Are people seriously thinking splashing circa 100 million on 2 strikers with a soon to be combined age of 58 is a good idea?

 

I seriously hope PIF would block Howe on this. He’s looking seriously out of his depth having responsibility for transfers this summer. If he lost his job after a bad start to the season, we’d be in the fucking shite massively and stuck with assets with no re-sale value.

[relámpago blanco]

21 minutes ago, Solitude20 said:

Isak stays, and we get Wissa, Gallagher, and Ghehi. On top of already securing Elanga and Ramsdale, that would be a great window. 

Not Guehi but rest fair enough. Not sure Gallagher improves us though

[TRon]

5 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Watkins is 30 in December and relies a lot on his pace. They’d want 60 million at least to sell him at this late stage of the window.

 

PSR wise it’s expensive as fuck. To bring down the cost of the deal you’d have to give him a longer contract, then you’d be committing 150k per week until he’s in his mid 30’s.

 

Are people seriously thinking splashing circa 100 million on 2 strikers with a soon to be combined age of 58 is a good idea?

 

I seriously hope PIF would block Howe on this. He’s looking seriously out of his depth having responsibility for transfers this summer. If he lost his job after a bad start to the season, we’d be in the fucking shite massively and stuck with assets with no re-sale value.

 

 

Watkins would be a terrible decision. I know we don't have a DOF at the moment, but someone needs to put a block on it if we are even considering it. Man U aren't daft they slapped down Amorin pretty damn quick when he started talking that shit. 

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

Another day passes and absolutely no progress in strengthening the squad.  

[TRon]

1 hour ago, Shadow Puppets said:

 

I still don't understand that argument. Surely signing two almost guaranteed premier league goalscorers is exactly what will help build our revenue long term. And I don't buy that, if Watkins and Wissa performed well for two years for us, we couldn't recoup a decent chunk of change from someone... Saudi or wherever. 

 

We need to attack this season with the aim of another Top 5 or 6 finish. In my opinion, we aren't going to remotely give ourselves the best chance with unproven players like the Porto lad or Sesko. We're much more likely to have a couple of good years, with players who WANT to be here, with players like Watkins or Wissa. Both, also, crucially have good fitness records.

 

 

That's the type of thinking which Villa banked on last season and I said at the time it could backfire if they didn't get CL football. They didn't. 

[Whitley mag]

Just now, TRon said:

 

 

Watkins would be a terrible decision. I know we don't have a DOF at the moment, but someone needs to put a block on it if we are even considering it. Man U aren't daft they slapped down Amorin pretty damn quick when he started talking that shit. 

It would be shocking business and confirm all my worst fears about giving Howe full control of transfers.

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

It would be shocking business and confirm all my worst fears about giving Howe full control of transfers.

 

 

I don't blame managers for thinking like this. They are in the results business and any two of Watkins/Wissa/Isak would be a formidable strike force and could get us CL again, possibly more. But in a couple of years we would be in real trouble, and the manager isn't going to bail you out then, if he's even there still. That's why you need the club to be directed properly from above. 

[duo]

Now lets sign some players !!

[Hanshithispantz]

He's one of the best strikers in the league and we're going into a CL season needing to finish in the top 4.

 

Villa's gamble was the right thing to do as PSR means you have no choice but to take risks.

[jack j]

True story

Boring as fuck and people losing their heads left right and centre

 

[oldtype]

Just now, jack j said:

True story

Boring as fuck and people losing their heads left right and centre

 

 

This is just the same with all news. There's too much of it now. Following it is exhausting.

[Kid Icarus]

Our first 3 after the takeover were absolutely class.