M4 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I call bullshit on the square pegs in square holes speech from McClaren if he plays Colback as the deepest midfielder and Sissoko on the wing tbh. That's two players in the wrong positions right off the bat. Well yeah. That's why even with a manager with the best on intentions it would be tough... and we don't really even have that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Stupidity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I've always rated Mehdi personally & will be sad to see him go. Had some outstanding games at CDM particularly Liverpool at home & Man City in the league cup. Never really had a decent crack of the whip imo which is a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Why is noone better taking him? Has a fee been mentioned? Such a shame, really liked the lad. He could have made it in this league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Why is noone better taking him? Has a fee been mentioned? Such a shame, really liked the lad. He could have made it in this league. this is a decent question tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Why is noone better taking him? Has a fee been mentioned? Such a shame, really liked the lad. He could have made it in this league. He hasn't really had much exposure to be fair, I am quite surprised that Dusseldorf had heard of him. When he had a run in the side he was starting to get noticed before he had the injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 He's not our worst player but the sooner our hierarchy realise Colback isn't very good we'll struggle to be a good side. Anita too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 He's not our worst player but the sooner our hierarchy realise Colback isn't very good we'll struggle to be a good side. Anita too. I'd rather they had a dawning realisation about the defence tbh, the likes of Colback and Anita should never play together but as over part of a decent midfield they're far from the problem. Anita especially. We'll never be an above average team until that defence is sorted out like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 He's not our worst player but the sooner our hierarchy realise Colback isn't very good we'll struggle to be a good side. Anita too. I'd rather they had a dawning realisation about the defence tbh, the likes of Colback and Anita should never play together but as over part of a decent midfield they're far from the problem. Anita especially. We'll never be an above average team until that defence is sorted out like. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00388/122860022_BIZ_Ashle_388827c.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Would like to see him get more chances, but wouldn't be missed from my point of view, rather have kept Santon or HBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 He's not our worst player but the sooner our hierarchy realise Colback isn't very good we'll struggle to be a good side. Anita too. I'd rather they had a dawning realisation about the defence tbh, the likes of Colback and Anita should never play together but as over part of a decent midfield they're far from the problem. Anita especially. We'll never be an above average team until that defence is sorted out like. The problem with the defence is that we can't shift what we have. If we had half decent offers for Colo & Williamson that would save £4-5m a year in wages and i'm certain we would buy a new CB or two. The problem is we are paying for 4 senior CB's and 1 more as back-up. for once, it's understandeable that we can't make an addition without selling first. We are walking into a similar situation in central midfield. Colback, Tiote & Anita all must have some time on their contracts and from what i've seen - none are solid top half PL midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 We've let far better players go for fuck all though so it's hardly about getting decent fees. There are surely championship clubs that would be dying to take the likes of Williamson off our hands based on his current status alone. I can only assume they rate him to some degree. We can happily jettison santon but not Obertan? It's weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Not happy about letting him go at all. Would much rather we kept him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Better than Colback and that will become very apparent as the lads career progresses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Rank stupidity from our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 He's not our worst player but the sooner our hierarchy realise Colback isn't very good we'll struggle to be a good side. Anita too. I'd rather they had a dawning realisation about the defence tbh, the likes of Colback and Anita should never play together but as over part of a decent midfield they're far from the problem. Anita especially. We'll never be an above average team until that defence is sorted out like. The problem with the defence is that we can't shift what we have. If we had half decent offers for Colo & Williamson that would save £4-5m a year in wages and i'm certain we would buy a new CB or two. The problem is we are paying for 4 senior CB's and 1 more as back-up. for once, it's understandeable that we can't make an addition without selling first. We are walking into a similar situation in central midfield. Colback, Tiote & Anita all must have some time on their contracts and from what i've seen - none are solid top half PL midfielders. This is the problem with giving every fucker 6 year deals. The decent ones are gone within 2 or 3 years leaving you with the not so good ones. What a model. We are well and truly showing everybody how it's done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Better than Colback and that will become very apparent as the lads career progresses. He really isn't better than Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Why is noone better taking him? Has a fee been mentioned? Such a shame, really liked the lad. He could have made it in this league. this is a decent question tbf Why did no one better take HBA? Doesn't mean he shouldn't still be here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Better than Colback and that will become very apparent as the lads career progresses. He really isn't better than Colback. As a DM he is and that's the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Can't say I'm massively arsed about this but I do feel like we should have given him more of a chance. Oh well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Shame. I liked the lad and thought he had potential. Seemed to just have a sort of touch of class about him. Hope he does well. I think that mistake against Manchester United must've been a pivotal moment in his downfall under Carver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 How are other PL teams' records when it comes to youth recruitment? In the Ashley era only one (arguably two) player(s) signed for the Development Squad have amounted to something more than fuck-all: Perez and Bassong. There's a sprinkling of league minutes between Vuckic, Abeid and Bigi - all of whom have looked useful for a microsecond before going to the pits. But that's it. Is that good going by Premier League standards? I honestly don't know. What about the rest? We've signed a lot. Poor coaching or poor scouting? It seems that players from the area are always favoured in spite of the huge amount of young lads we purchase from other clubs. I don't have a problem with that, providing they're good enough players. But it can't be a coincidence that utter guff like Adam Campbell get anywhere near the pitch, when you consider our Development Manager is a Geordie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Jesus christ. I'm not too arsed that it's him but that brings it down to 3 out 3 in (IIRC) from the first team and whilst we have replaced with seemingly higher quality our squad depth isn't much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 How are other PL teams' records when it comes to youth recruitment? In the Ashley era only one (arguably two) player(s) signed for the Development Squad have amounted to something more than fuck-all: Perez and Bassong. There's a sprinkling of league minutes between Vuckic, Abeid and Bigi - all of whom have looked useful for a microsecond before going to the pits. But that's it. Is that good going by Premier League standards? I honestly don't know. What about the rest? We've signed a lot. Poor coaching or poor scouting? It seems that players from the area are always favoured in spite of the huge amount of young lads we purchase from other clubs. I don't have a problem with that, providing they're good enough players. But it can't be a coincidence that utter guff like Adam Campbell get anywhere near the pitch, when you consider our Development Manager is a Geordie. Wasn't Adam Campbell really good at youth level though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Jesus christ. I'm not too arsed that it's him but that brings it down to 3 out 3 in (IIRC) from the first team and whilst we have replaced with seemingly higher quality our squad depth isn't much better. Hell with squad depth, we don't even have a complete first XI yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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