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1 minute ago, Big River said:

he's decent enough, works hard etc but is he what we need? probably not

 

won't stop people crying about it though

 

Aye, I remember reading in summer that the consensus among Atleti fans is that he is an incredibly hard worker but not technically gifted. Can't vouch for that myself but probably not the right profile for us if true.

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33 minutes ago, toontownman said:

Reading Eddie's comments regarding PSR it feels like recalling Targett is rhe most likely outcome this window. Maybe one opportunistic signing if the stars align.

 

Are we always going to be skint. :lol:

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6 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

Ugh, I would have been so happy to shift out Willock and replace with Gallagher. £25m is nothing.


When you’ve just spunked 90 odd million on Ramsey and Elanga a few months ago it’s a hell of a lot of money for a player without any special traits or talents. 

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If we can’t make any moves in this window because of PSR then it makes the summer look even worse. I’m refusing to believe it and I’m expecting a couple of players.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

If we can’t make any moves in this window because of PSR then it makes the summer look even worse. I’m refusing to believe it and I’m expecting a couple of players.

 

 

 

1 being Targett [emoji38]

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11 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

If we can’t make any moves in this window because of PSR then it makes the summer look even worse. I’m refusing to believe it and I’m expecting a couple of players.

 

 

 


We can sign players in January, but the club has generally been reluctant to make panic buys in that window; the obvious exception being when we were staring relegation in the face.
 

What Eddie is getting at isn’t that signings are impossible, but that we won’t just bring in random players who aren’t on the club’s shortlist. For better or worse, we operate with a very specific and limited set of targets, and if those deals aren’t available or don’t make sense under PSR, we won’t force something for the sake of it.

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13 minutes ago, McCormick said:


We can sign players in January, but the club has generally been reluctant to make panic buys in that window; the obvious exception being when we were staring relegation in the face.
 

What Eddie is getting at isn’t that signings are impossible, but that we won’t just bring in random players who aren’t on the club’s shortlist. For better or worse, we operate with a very specific and limited set of targets, and if those deals aren’t available or don’t make sense under PSR, we won’t force something for the sake of it.


The other side of it could be missing out on European football because we chose not to strengthen. Fair enough if we decide to stick with what we have, but if injuries derail us we can’t complain about bad luck.

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Gallagher for £25m is unreal, fair play to Villa, though wonder if his wages are big 

 

Would have suited us way better than Ramsey 

 

He was great for Chelsea under Poch, he played him every game despite them spending £300m on Lavia/Caicaido/Fernandez

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If Miley is playing right back we need a midfielder.

Its possibly easier to buy a midfielder than to buy a right back who'll come in and do as well as Miley has been.

It also gives Miley time on the pitch that we weren't able to give to Anderson.

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Howe is an extremely glass half empty person when it comes to transfers. His constant talk of "the right player" is fine but there has to be flexibility as spending absolutely loads on "the right player" is no guarantee as we're finding out and has a far bigger impact on PSR than a few cheapish prospects ever will.

 

A couple of calculated gambles won't bankrupt us (or hamstring us for 5 years, like he implied this morning). They might turn out to be brilliant and actually save/earn us a boatload of money in the future. That would obviously depend on him giving them game time of course which is a related yet entirely different subject.

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We simply must bring a couple of defenders in this month whether that be loans or permanent. Cannot go to the end of the season in four competitions with decimated backline. 

The way howe utilises players by running them into the ground when just returning will probably result in botman pulling up with something soon. 

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5 hours ago, Thumbheed said:

 

It left us with 3 windows where we couldn't purchase anyone in the richest and most competitive league in the world. 

 

The fact it paid of is down to Howe and a lot of people recognise that. Had Howe not dragged us through that period, the narrative on that earlier spending and it's repercussions would be very very different.

 

Howe did a fantastic job back then and still is IMHO. Still shouldn't forget that it was Staveley who had the good judgment to appoint him when pundits and journalists were urging her to go for the likes of Steven Gerrard and scoffing at Eddie for getting Bournemouth relegated.

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42 minutes ago, Ellis H said:

Howe is an extremely glass half empty person when it comes to transfers. His constant talk of "the right player" is fine but there has to be flexibility as spending absolutely loads on "the right player" is no guarantee as we're finding out and has a far bigger impact on PSR than a few cheapish prospects ever will.

 

A couple of calculated gambles won't bankrupt us (or hamstring us for 5 years, like he implied this morning). They might turn out to be brilliant and actually save/earn us a boatload of money in the future. That would obviously depend on him giving them game time of course which is a related yet entirely different subject.

 

First part I agree with, I didn't mind that attitude, especially when we signed genuinely top talented players (Bruno, Tonali, Botman, Isak etc) or players that were young and doubled their value (Hall, Tino, Minteh etc) 

 

We were amazing in the transfer market 

 

Not so sure now though 

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The summer 23/24 transfer market was heavily scrutinised, with the signings of Tonali, Barnes and Hall all questioned and/or criticised at some point. The previous summer hasn't had the same benefit of time yet.

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Just suffered through the latest Craig no Hope youtube for my sins as he seems to get good info albeit not always welcome news. 

 

He is saying club are now actively looking at a RCB bringing forward summer spending as schar out till April at the earliest and matt targett recall deadline is rumoured next Friday but issue is player happy being no.1 at boro. 

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1 hour ago, Stottie said:

If Miley is playing right back we need a midfielder.

Its possibly easier to buy a midfielder than to buy a right back who'll come in and do as well as Miley has been.

It also gives Miley time on the pitch that we weren't able to give to Anderson.

Scalvini - plays CB - RB/LB, 6 if needed - I get his injury record is a bit dicey

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34 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

The summer 23/24 transfer market was heavily scrutinised, with the signings of Tonali, Barnes and Hall all questioned and/or criticised at some point. The previous summer hasn't had the same benefit of time yet.

 

To be fair, the main scrutiny I remember reading about the 23/24 window was less about the quality of the players, and more whether we'd signed the right players relative to what we needed for that coming season, and whether we'd brought in enough depth in particular going into a busy champions league season - that concern ended up being pretty valid with the benefit hindsight. 

 

Last summer was largely similar, it's less about the ability of the players we signed for me and more whether they were what we needed. I'd have been more patient with the Ramsey signing, for example, if we'd signed a creative midfielder too. 

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Hoping it's going to be a case of 'what the hell do I know' but with Schar probably out for a decent chunk of time, Livramento as well, Burn still being weeks away* and Botman's overall injury record it seems a bit reckless to me not getting a defender in this window. Mainly due to the volume of games on top of the quality of the opposition in those games. If Botman pulls up or god forbid Thiaw got an injury we're not even barebones at the back, there's no bones left. :lol: 

 

*Unspecified number of weeks of course but if it was kind and it was say, 3 weeks, that's still 6 games out. 

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