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27 minutes ago, simonsays said:

Thankfully almost guaranteed that we will get an invite to any Saudi competition - I suggest we are the sole founder member and the 'big six' have to qualify every year

I actually think they would make it performance based. The ‘closed shop’ ESL was the most unpopular element. 
 

The Champions League itself is trending in the direction of admittance by ‘historic performance’.  The original Swiss format had 2 positions for clubs that didn’t qualify the normal route but based in the highest coefficient club.  

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Cracking article in The Athletic about how the transfer window functions these days.

 

Free to read here: https://theathletic.com./4679032/2023/07/27/how-football-transfers-actually-work/

 

A highlight:

 

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“The problem you’ll have now is weirdos who own football clubs, they all just want to ‘win’. It’s a Trumpian mindset for a lot of them; they just want to win every single fight, be that keeping their player, or getting a massive fee, or signing a marquee player just to show off. So that makes it hard to have sensible negotiations sometimes.

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Aye, good for them. Why any club, when they know Chelsea want a player of theirs, would accept the first or even the second bid, is beyond me. Chelsea are the desperate drunk bloke at the end of the night, propositioning anything in a skirt. They'll be back with an even bigger bid, no doubt. Scummy wankers.

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Brighton: Everytime we say no, they just keeping adding £10m. At this point we want to see just how high that crazy cowboy will go.

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2 hours ago, LionOfGosforth said:

Aye, good for them. Why any club, when they know Chelsea want a player of theirs, would accept the first or even the second bid, is beyond me. Chelsea are the desperate drunk bloke at the end of the night, propositioning anything in a skirt. They'll be back with an even bigger bid, no doubt. Scummy wankers.

 

Fans of every other club would probably say the same of us, mind.

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11 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

Seems incredibly cheap, would take him here at that price


What a fall off this guy has had. Looked certain to be a top player at one point. 
 

Given we’re light in the rw position I think it’d be worth rolling the dice on him for £4m too. 

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43 minutes ago, St1pe said:


What a fall off this guy has had. Looked certain to be a top player at one point. 
 

Given we’re light in the rw position I think it’d be worth rolling the dice on him for £4m too. 

He’s only 22 isn’t he? 

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1 hour ago, Ben said:

Looking at the two squads last night Chelsea need to get rid of a shit load of players before bringing anyone in.

 

Not sure they do tbh, they've already cleared loads bringing the average age right down. Mostly it'll be younger players going out on loan from this point rather than many more sales from the actual squad they've took with them to the US.

 

Only position they do need to sell on is left back, as they currently have four. 

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4 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

 

Not sure they do tbh, they've already cleared loads bringing the average age right down. Mostly it'll be younger players going out on loan from this point rather than many more sales from the actual squad they've took with them to the US.

 

Only position they do need to sell on is left back, as they currently have four. 


sounds like they want to sell a few- they’ve still got a massive squad and players who simply won’t play. LB, like you say is one area. 

 

“Mauricio Pochettino says Chelsea need to be prepared to make tough decisions to trim their “massive” preseason squad and create the right balance in the coming weeks.

Chelsea took 29 players on their preseason tour of the United States, despite allowing 12 first-team players to depart in this summer transfer window and leaving Romelu Lukaku, Hakim Ziyech and Callum Hudson-Odoi in England to find moves away from Stamford Bridge.

 

Cobham graduate Lewis Hall and recent signing Ângelo Gabriel were two players Pochettino was unable to find minutes for in a 1-1 draw with Newcastle at Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta on Tuesday, and after the match Chelsea’s manager was keen to emphasise that his squad remains too big for what he requires.

 

“First of all we need to define the squad,” Pochettino said. “We are 29, 30 players here and it’s massive. At the moment the dynamic is really good. They are very good guys sharing a good time together. But it’s difficult because in every game maybe three, four, five players cannot play, and that makes the mood difficult.

“It’s about creating a squad with a good balance with people who have the opportunity to play and compete for a place. That is a challenge for us in the transfer window to build a good balance, and then if players are not happy because they believe they are not going to play, we will find a solution to fix the situation.

“What we cannot do is have a massive squad with players in America not involved, because it’s going to create a mess. Maybe less is more and more is less.

“That is why I need to make clear we don’t need a bigger squad. We need 22, 23, 24 players and that’s it. I’m so sorry because maybe the decisions will be tough, but we need to build a good, balanced team if we want to compete for big things.”

 

Pochettino's Chelsea vision is becoming clear... and it looks good

Pochettino cited left-back as a particularly overloaded area. Hall’s path to selection there is currently blocked by Ben Chilwell, Marc Cucurella and Ian Maatsen, but the Dutchman has still managed to break through in preseason operating in more advanced midfield roles, starting on the left wing against Brighton and Hove Albion and on the right against Newcastle.”

 

https://theathletic.com/4725133/2023/07/27/chelsea-mauricio-pochettino-trim-preseason-squad/?access_token=8349337&redirected=1

 

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Not really any different to what I've said tbf. The ones they're selling are those that are left at home anyway. Most of it from now will be picking which of the kids/new signings they're keeping around, and which are going out on loan.

 

Other than maybe Gallagher I'm not sure they'll sell many more.

 

I know we've been linked with Lewis Hall, but I'd still be surprised if they sell him rather than loan out at this stage of his career tbh. Especially as it's not like he can't also play other positions.

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9 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Not really any different to what I've said tbf. The ones they're selling are those that are left at home anyway. Most of it from now will be picking which of the kids/new signings they're keeping around, and which are going out on loan.

 

Other than maybe Gallagher I'm not sure they'll sell many more.

 

I know we've been linked with Lewis Hall, but I'd still be surprised if they sell him rather than loan out at this stage of his career tbh. Especially as it's not like he can't also play other positions.

It says they took 29 on the tour and Poch wants a squad of 22-24? So they want to sell 5-7, as well as the ones named and were left at home. 

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24 minutes ago, Manxst said:

It says they took 29 on the tour and Poch wants a squad of 22-24? So they want to sell 5-7, as well as the ones named and were left at home. 

 

They're hardly going to be selling the likes of Gabriel, Moreira etc who they've literally just signed though. Nor likely other youngsters they've either signed last summer like Casadei or brought through like Hall. They've signed lots of young players as assets, which makes up a large part of their US party, and they'll be trimming the squad down mostly by farming them out.

 

The pre-season tour will largely be an exercise in Poch deciding who he wants around, and who isn't ready yet. But that doesn't mean selling the players in question necessarily - it just means who will be sticking around this season in a smaller squad. And I don't think this process or the existing size of their tour squad would do anything in terms of stopping them make a first XI signing like Caicedo for example.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Ronson333 said:

Bollocks about this mysterious Liverpool love, just wait till the Saudi big bucks becomes available and these Liverpool legends/players show their true colours.

 

Ain't rainbow flags for sure

 

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