Fantail Breeze Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Our fanbase always want to throw a youngster in at every opportunity He’s had six months in League Two and two pre-season friendlies. PL football is so far away from that. Throw someone in at the deep end and you’ll end up like a Longstaff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Our fanbase always want to throw a youngster in at every opportunity He’s had six months in League Two and two pre-season friendlies. PL football is so far away from that. Throw someone in at the deep end and you’ll end up like a Longstaff. He's the same age as Ekiteke if I'm not mistaken, pretty sure he would have been in our first team squad and not sent out on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 I don’t think either Longstaff brother has suffered as a result of being thrown in to play PL games. If anything they thrived. It was what followed in terms of coaching and progression that has saw them stagnate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TRon said: He's the same age as Ekiteke if I'm not mistaken, pretty sure he would have been in our first team squad and not sent out on loan. He’s also played a full season of first team football in France’s highest league. Anderson’s only experience is six months in League Two. Ekitike was also sent out on loan the season before last to some Danish team IIRC. Not sure he would’ve been a guaranteed starter had he moved here, which is what people are advocating for Anderson. He’d benefit a lot more from going on loan to a possession based Championship team with a progressive manager, rather than sitting on our bench. One more full season out on loan and he’d be about there, imo. Edited July 18, 2022 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Where did he play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: He’s also played a full season of first team football in France’s highest league. Anderson’s only experience is six months in League Two. Ekitike was also sent out on loan the season before last to some Danish team IIRC. Not sure he would’ve been a guaranteed starter had he moved here, which is what people are advocating for Anderson. He’d benefit a lot more from going on loan to a possession based Championship team with a progressive manager, rather than sitting on our bench. One more full season out on loan and he’d be about there, imo. I don’t think Anderson should be starting but he absolutely has a role coming off the bench now with the 5 sub rule. It’s a tricky one give him starts in the championship or using him off the bench. Massive issue we are going to have is our starting 11 will be decent but our bench is still going to be pretty average and with teams subbing half their outfield team we are going to have to start relying on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Where did he play? LCM position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Interesting to see what we do with him. Based on what we saw from him at Bristol Rovers, he plays in Maxi's position - but he appears to have been on the left of the three CMs if I've been watching these two friendlies right. It's impossible to make conclusions but he's certainly looked bright. Enthusiastic, intelligent and some really good one-touch stuff. But it's obscenely early, imo, to be chucking him in our starting line-ups. We really don't have a lot to go on. An indictment of our other wingers, I suppose, but as I say he hasn't even played there for us. Unless he really is ready - which I highly doubt - hopefully Shola is lining him up a Championship club so he can build on his promise. I can see the benefit of him sticking around until January, I guess, to get to know Howe's philosophy. A few months of not that much playing time probably wouldn't hurt. I have faith in the manager either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, Yorkie said: Interesting to see what we do with him. Based on what we saw from him at Bristol Rovers, he plays in Maxi's position - but he appears to have been on the left of the three CMs if I've been watching these two friendlies right. It's impossible to make conclusions but he's certainly looked bright. Enthusiastic, intelligent and some really good one-touch stuff. But it's obscenely early, imo, to be chucking him in our starting line-ups. We really don't have a lot to go on. An indictment of our other wingers, I suppose, but as I say he hasn't even played there for us. Unless he really is ready - which I highly doubt - hopefully Shola is lining him up a Championship club so he can build on his promise. I can see the benefit of him sticking around until January, I guess, to get to know Howe's philosophy. A few months of not that much playing time probably wouldn't hurt. I have faith in the manager either way. I have faith in the manager, I have absolutely no faith in Shola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: Interesting to see what we do with him. Based on what we saw from him at Bristol Rovers, he plays in Maxi's position - but he appears to have been on the left of the three CMs if I've been watching these two friendlies right. It's impossible to make conclusions but he's certainly looked bright. Enthusiastic, intelligent and some really good one-touch stuff. But it's obscenely early, imo, to be chucking him in our starting line-ups. We really don't have a lot to go on. An indictment of our other wingers, I suppose, but as I say he hasn't even played there for us. Unless he really is ready - which I highly doubt - hopefully Shola is lining him up a Championship club so he can build on his promise. I can see the benefit of him sticking around until January, I guess, to get to know Howe's philosophy. A few months of not that much playing time probably wouldn't hurt. I have faith in the manager either way. We have enough to go on to see that he can control a ball better than Murphy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 If he is loaned out, where? Where would he get minutes and work under a decent manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, gazza ladra said: If he is loaned out, where? Where would he get minutes and work under a decent manager? Someone like Luton would make sense, they play decent attacking football and are a top 10 Championship side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Luton were linked with him in the winter which could still be a decent move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 As I said in the match thread I’d be disappointed if he doesn’t make this season’s squad. Especially seeing how average Longstaff, Almirón and Murphy all are. He’ll be 20 come November and at his age Declan Rice, Phil Foden and Marcus Rashford were all involved in the first team and none of them ever went out on loan. Homegrown players are valuable commodities these days and having a local lad progressing through the ranks during this new ownership lends us much needed integrity which I’m sure our directors can appreciate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Got to be able to get a song about him to the tune of Living In America by James Brown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 I'd honestly keep him around and have him compete for the various midfield/winger roles for at least the first half of this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Kanji said: I'd honestly keep him around and have him compete for the various midfield/winger roles for at least the first half of this season. Agreed. 5 subs means he’ll get plenty more opportunity than last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 We should keep him just due to the fact we haven't got enough good players in any of his positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 If he's going to become a regular long-term, he's got his chance when the few positions he plays aren't that strong. He's at the sort of age now if he gets a run of games and nails it, we mightn't need to replace him or loan him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 And now we can all breathe a sigh of relief as it shows, once again, that Eddie knows what he's doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 See how he does for the rest of pre season, no need to make a decision right up until the window closes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 As it stands - 1st choice for me is Bruno and Joelinton. And Willock/Longstaff/Anderson are battling for the other more “attacking” position. Shelvey being rotated in when tactics or game plan require. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 51 minutes ago, Kanji said: As it stands - 1st choice for me is Bruno and Joelinton. And Willock/Longstaff/Anderson are battling for the other more “attacking” position. Shelvey being rotated in when tactics or game plan require. I think that Shelvey is going to feature far more than people are ready for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Either he stays with us or we send him to the Eredivisie for a year which I think would be better for him than the English leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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