Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, PlymouthGeordie said: We can either pay it or risk relegation. I don't advocate us paying it, it's just clear to me our negotiating position is weak. we can go elsewhere. Man Utd lose money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I still think we will get him permanently for that type of price and then give him a relegation clause. At this point for him it seems it’s us or no one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Got to say fair play for walking away from this one. That’s ridiculous from Man Utd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, gdm said: Got to say fair play for walking away from this one. That’s ridiculous from Man Utd And do you think Man Utd will be the outlier or will other clubs we are dealing with be doing similar ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, madras said: And do you think Man Utd will be the outlier or will other clubs we are dealing with be doing similar ? This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, madras said: And do you think Man Utd will be the outlier or will other clubs we are dealing with be doing similar ? Other clubs will similar but there is a difference between over paying to have a permanent transfer and over paying to have a player for a few months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Not too far off a million per game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Still think this goes through - just a case of who blinks first. Especially if player's unhappy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: we can go elsewhere. Man Utd lose money. Agreed. But we're running in to the same problems on EVERY deal. I said yesterday, if you want a big player in January you pay over their market value (January tax), in this window there also appears to be a Newcastle tax. Either the owners bite the bullet or we don't sign elite players. I'm all for walking away from the lingard deal given his contract status and age. I'd have paid the Botman fee though because he'd improve with age and he'd be our CB for the next decade. The owners will be judged on 1st Feb but as things stands it's not looking promising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, OCK said: £15m is way too much, honestly happy with the club pulling away from deals where other clubs seem to be trying to take the piss. A decent scouting set up would be able to negate this in time once it's set up, I hope. Paying £15 million to sign - let's face it - a player on the decline for 6 months is fucking mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, toon25 said: A decent scouting set up would be able to negate this in time once it's set up, I hope. Paying £15 million to sign - let's face it - a player on the decline for 6 months is fucking mental. We’ve just paid £25m for Wood for six months. No way he’ll be any use to use next season, if we’re planning on staying up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 As I said last week, we've been played. Man U were deliberately wasting our time, there is absolutely no chance of any PL club (other than possibly Man City) agreeing to loan us players. They desperately want us to be relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: We’ve just paid £25m for Wood for six months. No way he’ll be any use to use next season, if we’re planning on staying up. I think there's your answer unfortunately..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Want lingard,mata and Shaw for 15m... cheeky bastards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 It's in their interests for us to not stay up, so not surprising really. Just pleased they haven't gone for what would have been a ridiculous deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Shearergol said: So, are we aiming far too high, or is it just going to be incredibly difficult to sign anyone (other than massively overpriced end of career type strikers from relegation rivals)? I think it's going to be hard in Jan, I think we'll get a couple more but not what we wanted. I don't think this should be seen as a negative for the owners. You can see the quality they are aiming for and how much they are willing to spend. As long as we stay up the future is very bright. I think they will literally target building a squad that is capable of challenging the top 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, relámpago blanco said: I think it's going to be hard in Jan, I think we'll get a couple more but not what we wanted. I don't think this should be seen as a negative for the owners. You can see the quality they are aiming for and how much they are willing to spend. As long as we stay up the future is very bright. I think they will literally target building a squad that is capable of challenging the top 4 The staying up is the hard part. As of the 26th January we've only strengthened at right back, which I'd argue was one of the last positions on the pitch we actually needed to strengthen (obviously Trippier is a class above all of our other players so I'm not belittling that transfer). A 1-0 win against a Leeds side missing their best players shouldn't be used to gloss over the horrendous predicament we're actually in. We need quality in now. They maybe need to stop targeting the top 4 players are start targeting the top 12-14 players instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, bowlingcrofty said: This sounds like quibbling over a bonus part of the fee, not walking away. They're reporting that Lingard himself is up for it, which is the main issue here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Sneaky feeling this is something which can be done on deadline day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, r0cafella said: Sneaky feeling this is something which can be done on deadline day. Written all over it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Top 6 team being a cunt because they're scared of us challenging them. Toys out the pram! Fuck em! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Holmesy said: Top 6 team being a cunt because they're scared of us challenging them. Toys out the pram! Fuck em! Well we're a hell more likely to take points off West Ham, Spurs, Arsenal, Wolves with a player like Lingard than without. afew more signings to convince them that we're not going down, and they'll see the benefit in sellng. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jan/26/jesse-lingard-dismayed-newcastle-loan-on-verge-of-collapse-over-15m-terms-manchester-united ‘United are demanding a £2.5m loan fee, full coverage of the player’s wages and a £12m bonus if the Saudi Arabian-owned club avoid relegation from the Premier League’. What a fucking mess that is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Man Utd fans on Red Cafe seem livid with their own club that they are making these ridiculous demands of us. Lingard isnt popular on there and they just want shot of him it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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