Jacob Ramsey

[Holloway]

Tidy is about it so far. Since the comeback from that unfortunate clattering by Sean, he's looked ok ish but that's hardly a justification of his recent  inclusion

[gbandit]

21 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I know everyone who didn't rate the signings want to close for business on it and be right but its still only been 4 months into multiple 5 year contracts like.

Ramsey will be quality for us. As is Woltemade and he’ll only get better. Thiaw is class. I’m not convinced we’ll see close to the value we paid for either Wissa or Elanga, and the latter is particularly gruelling as we’d needed to replace that position for about eight transfer windows on the run

[dcmk]

32 minutes ago, Menace said:

Plenty of people had concern over the summer. Repeatedly they were told "how many has Howe got wrong"

 

I've never seen value in much of our summer signings to be honest - £45M for a Willock crock is absolutely mental especially when he's been out of form for a good 2 years

 

Ah well

 

Majority of Villa fans were disappointed he was leaving and pissed off at the PSR rules for forcing them to sell.

 

That's usually a good sign.

[brummie]

17 minutes ago, dcmk said:

Majority of Villa fans were disappointed he was leaving and pissed off at the PSR rules for forcing them to sell.

 

That's usually a good sign.

This js definitely true. 
 

was surprised we got so much for him, though, tbh. Although as I said the other day, he’s a quality player. 

[Kimbo]

30 minutes ago, brummie said:

This js definitely true. 
 

was surprised we got so much for him, though, tbh. Although as I said the other day, he’s a quality player. 

I won’t complain if you buy him back at a discount.

[Andy]

1 hour ago, brummie said:

This js definitely true. 
 

was surprised we got so much for him, though, tbh. Although as I said the other day, he’s a quality player. 

 

Was the disappointment not mainly due to him being home grown though? I had a good read through Villa Talk when he left and the consensus seemed to be that he'd struggled to refind his form from 22/23 and he typically looked poor whenever he played under Emery, particularly in midfield. 

 

This matched what I saw in your games over the last couple of seasons too. The only time I'd seen him play well for you was off the left wing. 

[TRC]

1 hour ago, brummie said:

This js definitely true. 
 

was surprised we got so much for him, though, tbh. Although as I said the other day, he’s a quality player. 

What does he do?

[andycap]

This lad smacks of hasn't got a clue what the manager wants from him in games. At villa he was a creative player making great runs now he's like a regimented Longstaff doesn't look the same player. 

[ExiledGeordie]

It’s very disappointing that for whatever reason so far this hasn’t worked (ability, coaching etc). Elanga bombing out is one thing but Ramsey too is a killer. 

[TaylorJ_01]

3 hours ago, gbandit said:

Ramsey will be quality for us. As is Woltemade and he’ll only get better. Thiaw is class. I’m not convinced we’ll see close to the value we paid for either Wissa or Elanga, and the latter is particularly gruelling as we’d needed to replace that position for about eight transfer windows on the run

 

Agreed on Wissa.

 

We really need at least 2 seasons of 20+ goals in all comps in the next 4 years. He'll then be 33 and have no real resale value otherwise, and be on the decline.

[brummie]

4 hours ago, Andy said:

 

Was the disappointment not mainly due to him being home grown though? I had a good read through Villa Talk when he left and the consensus seemed to be that he'd struggled to refind his form from 22/23 and he typically looked poor whenever he played under Emery, particularly in midfield. 

 

This matched what I saw in your games over the last couple of seasons too. The only time I'd seen him play well for you was off the left wing. 

that’s what he does best - he was inportant for us because he carried the ball

up the pitch, and was particularly useful cutting in from the left. 
 

You’re right, he was seen more kindly for being ‘one of us’ but that’s nothing like enough to explain why we liked him. 
 

He was a very decent player for us, but one with awful injury luck, and not worth 40m (being totally honest). 

[oldtype]

Might as well try him on the left wing ourselves given how little is currently being created from that position.

[The College Dropout]

20 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

I know everyone who didn't rate the signings want to close for business on it and be right but its still only been 4 months into multiple 5 year contracts like.

Sounds like a threat

[Holloway]

Hope he's back on the bench tonight,he hasn't earned the start 

[The Prophet]

Just me that thought, embarrassing slip aside, he was alright v Man United.

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

Know I will get pelters, but

 

just go and take Roefs off the scum 

 

 

Edited January 2 by RUHRLYASLEEVESUP

[McCormick]

Feels like Ramsey’s weirdly become a bit of a scapegoat recently. He’s not lit things up, but he’s done his job, keeps the ball moving, doesn’t hide, etc. That’s not “shit,” that’s a player settling in. Fair to want more, but writing him off already is well over the top. There’s more to come from him imo.

[Ben]

17 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

Know I will get pellets but

 

just go and take Roefs off the scum 

 

1000% this, he looks outstanding 

[r0cafella]

1 hour ago, McCormick said:

Feels like Ramsey’s weirdly become a bit of a scapegoat recently. He’s not lit things up, but he’s done his job, keeps the ball moving, doesn’t hide, etc. That’s not “shit,” that’s a player settling in. Fair to want more, but writing him off already is well over the top. There’s more to come from him imo.

Zero output for 40m from your advanced midfielder isnt good. 

[Geordie Ahmed]

2 hours ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

Know I will get pelters, but

 

just go and take Roefs off the scum 

 

 

 

Why pelters?

 

I think everyone would admit he's been quality and looks to have the lot in his game 

 

But they'd never sell to us so it's not really a realistic suggestion 

 

They did unbelievably well to get him for only around £10m

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

17 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

Why pelters?

 

I think everyone would admit he's been quality and looks to have the lot in his game 

 

But they'd never sell to us so it's not really a realistic suggestion 

 

They did unbelievably well to get him for only around £10m

they may not want to sell but he would prob want to come I think

 

metro centre much better than Jackie whites market for his lass to shop 

[TRon]

9 hours ago, McCormick said:

Feels like Ramsey’s weirdly become a bit of a scapegoat recently. He’s not lit things up, but he’s done his job, keeps the ball moving, doesn’t hide, etc. That’s not “shit,” that’s a player settling in. Fair to want more, but writing him off already is well over the top. There’s more to come from him imo.

 

 

Don't rate him from what I've seen so far, but he's still a useful squad player. Hopefully there's better to come. I thought he'd be more of a goal threat when we were first in for him. 

[The Prophet]

[Interpolic]

20 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

4 players on that list man, that has to tell us something about why performances and results have been so mixed? That the ball is being passed accurately to our front 3 but it never sticks? 

[Andy]

The relevance of accuracy as a statistic really depends on other factors as well though. You're far more likely to be accurate if you're rarely playing progressive passes, or only playing them when it's a relatively safe option.